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Sgt. Pepper
08-10-2007, 3:19 PM
Well, I've just joined smother.com and thought I'd write a review, as I have done with the other two sites I’ve joined (facesittingbitches.com and bruteens.com)

As with my other reviews, everything said here is my own opinion and I respect everyone’s right to agree or disagree with anything or everything I say.

With that said, I’ll crack on with the review.

When I first noticed facesitting material was on the internet, I became aware of facesat.com, and loved their sample clips. When I finally got some money I decided to join that site, but found it had moved to smother.com long ago.

With that in mind I decided to join smother.com, and paid the highest member fee I have paid to date, $29.99, (which is £15 to us living in the UK) for 1 months membership.

As soon I had paid using my debit card I received instant membership, and started searching for the full versions of the facesat.com preview clips that I had loved for so long.

Clicking the ‘Videos’ link took me to a total treasure trove of clips, unfortunately the clips are all presented on one page, and although they are listed in date order, finding a particular clip is extremely difficult as each clips has a small thumbnail picture and a date, and obviously a link to the clip.

As you can imagine, I had no idea when the clips featured in the previews I had seen were made, or if they were even on the site, it was like a needle in a haystack!. After looking at the thumbnails I spotted one I remembered and clicked the link. Clicking a thumbnail takes you to the page where you can download the clip(s), view the picture gallery of screen caps, and for newer clips, view the high-res digital camera clips.

Almost every video has a picture gallery, although some older ones don’t. The pictures are very high quality, and even the screen caps are nicely presented and look great.

I havn’t had any reason to even click the ‘support’ option as everything has run so smoothly, so I can’t comment on that.

Back to the videos, all the videos I have viewed have been excellent, I can’t complain about the clips in the slightest. I can, however, complain about the navigation.

As I said earlier, finding the clips I was looking for was really difficult, as the clips are named ‘Smother Stories 468’ or ‘SS290’ etc… so finding what the clip contains is difficult, if not impossible. Some clips do contain a few lines on the content, but the vast majority don’t. I can’t help but think that with the vast amount of preferences within the facesitting scene, every clip should have a few lines saying whats in the clip, or a few bullet points like

• Ass Worship
• Nude
• Reverse
• Front

etc etc. This wouldn’t take much extra effort and would make finding what your after a lot easier.

This leads me to my next problem, searching. As far as I can find there is absolutely no search option, so if you wanna see a clip of a particular style of facesitting or mistress, even if you know the name of the mistress your looking for, you have to rely on the small thumbnails to find what your looking for. Obviously you could click each video link to see the mistress featured, but even then, some clips simply don’t tell you.

Also, if videos had bullet points as mentioned earlier then searching could possibly be made easier by having a search option with check boxes to find clips with exactly what you want.

This isn’t a major thing, as no site I’ve seen so far has this feature, but with such little info on each clip finding what you want can be very hard.

Right, I’ll try to wrap this up asap so I’ll move onto the free sites. When you join smother.com you are given instant access to 20 free sites, and although I’ve only visited 3 of these sites, they seem to be quite poor, but they’re free, so I have no complaints.

Right, quickly back to the clips, nearly all the clips come in both 512k (roughly 10 megs, medium quality) and 1000k (30-60 megs, depending on clip, excellent quality) options, which is great for those with slower internet connections or limited amounts of downloads per month. However, most videos are split into clips, with some having 1 and some having as many as 12, how I appreciate that this is to help people who just wanna quick clip, but theres no mention of what each clip contains, so if your looking for the a specific part in the video, your stuck with trial and error.

Also, I would have liked the option to download a whole movie, instead of it being split up into clips, by which I mean have a list of all the clips, and at the bottom have a link to download the full video. This is only a minor complaint however.

I know this review seems a bit like whine, but its all comments which I feel are valid, and I would like to finish by saying that overall smother.com represents excellent value for money, and every single clip is excellent. I am very very pleased with the sheer amount of clips and the high quality of each clip, and will defiantly be keeping my membership.

All feedback appreciated


If you'd like to check out my other reviews they can be found here:

Facesittingbitches.com - http://www.mistressdestiny.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70850
Bruteens.com - http://www.mistressdestiny.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70685

Luke-
08-10-2007, 4:15 PM
Pepper,

Thanks for the feedback. I agree about it being diffucult to find certain girls or clips,etc. That's something John and I have been wanting to improve. There are some things being worked on as we speak, but things take time.

After appearing in smother.com videos for 3 years as a slave John hired me last August to find Mistresses,models for the site since I was interacting with so many of them during shoots. This March he hired me to completely run smother.com,trample.com and footbabes.com and things are going well, but I'm still learning. There are lots of projects we're working on and I promise that the updates will continue to be often and I'll use a wide variety of girls. One thing I can say is I'm not as big on scenarios and story as I am the actually shot,angles and of course the mistress herself. I always like seeing a woman with a nice ass that is sitting full weight rather than hovering. Ass worship and some verbal humiliation are good too, but I dont focus too much on anything besides that. Everyone should remember that we are located in the metro Phoenix area so you will not see as many porn star type girls as companies that shoot in L.A.. Lots of the girls I choose are younger and less experienced than most models, but I think our stuff is still pretty good.

Anyways, we're trying to make smother.com better and better and and I have TONS of un-released material coming out soon!


Luke

Sgt. Pepper
08-10-2007, 4:25 PM
Cheers for the reply, as I said, I think the clips are fantastic, my main problem is the option to search, but as you said, thats being looked into.

Cheers for the feedback and keep up the amazing site!

Norm
08-10-2007, 7:49 PM
Shocking stuff.

bentkurt
08-11-2007, 4:19 AM
to many vid caps and too few HQ though - but apart from that it's ok

Sgt. Pepper
08-11-2007, 10:07 AM
Anyone else got any feedback on my review or the reply made by smother.com luke?

undrneath1
08-11-2007, 2:18 PM
SP:

I was interested to know (since i do enjoy your reviews) was there any trend you noticed in the material?
For instance, I prefer clothed reverse style. Would you say the majority of the material leaned towards that? or naked? or forward style? These are some of things I like to know before I join a site.

ps: Facesitting in England is an example of that. Nice models, material, etc but the emphasis is definitely on the front sitting which is not my thing at all so it was a bit of a waste of money for me as far as joining.

Sgt. Pepper
08-11-2007, 2:34 PM
Hey undrneath1, from what i can see it leans towards naked, but theres a good blend of front and reverse. I personally prefer reverse where the girl spreads her ass cheeks, and smother.com has plenty of that. I supppose I'm not one to comment hugely, as I've only downloaded the clips that showed reverse in the image gallery, but from what I can tell its mostly naked.

As far as clothed goes, it seems to be thongs, panty or nude, with the emphasis on nude. Hope this clears it up, but mabey smother.com luke could fill you in a bit more

Oh, and cheers for the comments on my reviews, I put alot of effort into them :)

undrneath1
08-11-2007, 2:41 PM
Thanks for the quick reply SP

As far as clothed goes, it seems to be thongs, panty or nude, with the emphasis on nude

okay it seems they haven't really changed their preferences which is why I've never joined before.

Much oblige for the review. I can tell you put a lot of effort into them and it's greatly appreciated.

I should try one for some of the sites I belong to.

Sgt. Pepper
08-11-2007, 3:03 PM
Yeah you should write a review for sure, would assist me in choosing other sites to join. As far as my reviews go, yeah I put loads of effort in lol I even proof read them, which is why its a bit sad to see them fade away after a few days. Idealy I'd like a section for reviews, or a sticky, so that if people wanna join a site they can check to see if theres reviews for them. Just an idea

undrneath1
08-11-2007, 3:38 PM
I agree about a review section. I think it's needed. People could constantly add their opinions to threads based on a certain site.
Of course DU would be the ultimate guy to ask about that since he runs this place (and very well too I might add)

Sgt. Pepper
08-11-2007, 3:54 PM
I know this might seem a bit cheeky of me, but as I'd have to make a pointless thread to get DU's attention, could you possibly direct him to this thread/reviews or mention my ideas to him? I think a reviews section would be for the benefit of all.

undrneath1
08-11-2007, 4:02 PM
actually a specific thread directed to him (or even with a title like " Should this board have a reviews section?" would be a good thing. It would invite others to weigh in with their opinion about a "reviews" section concerning membership websites.

While it's ultimately DU and Ken's and John's decision on adding it, they've always been very receptive to listening to ways to make this place better.

A thread that had many people expressing a desire for something like a "review's section of membership websites would have much better chance of making it happen as opposed to just me or you asking DU if it's doable via this particular thread. DU would probably want more input anyway from the other members before making a decision.

Sgt. Pepper
08-11-2007, 4:22 PM
Right thats done, now all I have to do is hope that it doesn't get sucked into the achieves before DU has a chance to see it, cheers for the help and advice UN1.

While I remember the thread says 'DU please read', could you possibly change the thread title to say 'DU/Kenrug/John please read'?

untouchable_cat
08-11-2007, 5:05 PM
one question tyhough...

Its about something that this site completely lacks and is stupid for not having more of it...


Now do you know what that is?...

Simply great f/f facesit material

undrneath1
08-11-2007, 5:58 PM
SP:

Actually I can't change thread titles in this forum, only in the forums I moderate. But I'm sure DU will see your request and take care of it.

boon
08-11-2007, 8:10 PM
SP:

Actually I can't change thread titles in this forum, only in the forums I moderate. But I'm sure DU will see your request and take care of it.

Well lets make sure he reads it. He has banned me twice so hes bound to read anything i wright

DU007
08-12-2007, 6:26 AM
Okay, folks....my thoughts on a Web Review place at MDFF in Sgt Pepper's other thread, here:


http://mistressdestiny.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73526

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DU007
08-12-2007, 6:30 AM
Well lets make sure he reads it. He has banned me twice so hes bound to read anything i wright


Boon...

I only banned you ONCE (and you bloody deserved it).


The second time was another Mod - and, actually, I had quite a lot to do with getting you reinstated that time...:)

.

micmacmad
08-12-2007, 11:44 AM
After quickly scanning thru the posts on here i think it has gone a bit off topic but i just wanted to say that I was a member of Smother.com for a few months and only recently cancelled.
Im very good at missing details so it came as a complete suprise to me when i found out that you dont BUY the clips from Smother.com, you only RENT them.
I found this out when the 30 or so clips I downloaded all stopped working in the order i downloaded them. I guess i shouldve worked it out when i joined up but im a bit thick when it comes to technology (too many brain cells killed whilst under a womans arse i think).
Am I the only person who thinks its out of order to be robbed of clips youve downloaded?? It took me ages to download them all and i paid my fee to see them like i would any other website. Are the still pictures going to disappear too one day?
Anyway that was my only (yet very major) gripe about the site.
Apart from that its wicked. The women are simply stunning and i think i fell in love with Jackie at one point lol.
Ah well just my 2 bobs worth.
Mic

Sgt. Pepper
08-12-2007, 12:55 PM
first I'd like to say welcome to board, and secondly I'm interested by your post. This is exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for.

How do you mean they stopped working, as currently I've had to input my user name and password for the first time I view a clip I downloaded, but after this they have played fine. Are you saying that after you cancel your membership the clips stop working, or do you mean that as newer clips have been added the clips you've downloaded have stopped working one by one.

More info on this would be a huge advantage to all

John
08-12-2007, 2:23 PM
He's incorrect. The only way movies stop playing are :

1.) The person downloaded them with a trial membership. We state in the TOS that trials do not get to keep the movies. That would be pretty dumb to give away all our movies for $2.95. You can't even get 1 clips4sale clips for that.


2.) If the person's login was compromised. We don't allow someone to give away the movies and a login for them. Once we see that, it gets deactivated.

Other than those factors, the movies are allowed to be kept forever.

Sgt. Pepper
08-12-2007, 4:20 PM
Thanks for clearing that up John, much appreciated.

So that means with my membership (currently a 1 month membership) I'll be able to watch the clips I've downloaded even after my membership has ended?

Oh by the way, in keeping with my thread from a few months ago about donating to the board, I joined using the link on this forum, so hopefully that generated a bit of extra income.

Keeping on topic, have you read my review? If so what do you make of it, I try to keep all me reviews totally fair and clearly map out the good and bad points of each site.

LV2GDWN
08-12-2007, 8:03 PM
Sorry to say, I experienced the same thing. I
joined in June on a 1 month subscription.
I was totally satisfied. I cancelled & as soon as
my membership ended, my clips stopped working. That day.
As I had downloaded a bunch of clips to view later that
I hadn't seen yet, I rejoined under the 3 month membership.
When I tried to view the clips after 1st membership,
I was asked to login, which failed. There was also duplicate
files that had a or b but contained the exact same files.
A little frustrating when there's 12 files. My only complaint though.
Great website & EXTRAS.
Plus I found the "EAT THIS & SMOTHER SCHOOL" clip series.

I'm a happy man.

SMOTHER.COM IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS, FEEL ME!

:worship::worship::worship::worship::clap::thumbsu p2:

John
08-12-2007, 8:13 PM
LV2GDWN, that is going to be a function of a username and password that is no longer valid. In my explanation above, the compromised login is not always the fault of the user....sometimes brute force attacks can get access...

If anyone finds their clips not working after the membership, that will be the reason...all you have to do is email us for a new login and you'll be up and running again...it's never happened twice to the same person that I know of... :D

John
08-12-2007, 8:15 PM
Thanks for clearing that up John, much appreciated.

So that means with my membership (currently a 1 month membership) I'll be able to watch the clips I've downloaded even after my membership has ended?

Oh by the way, in keeping with my thread from a few months ago about donating to the board, I joined using the link on this forum, so hopefully that generated a bit of extra income.

Keeping on topic, have you read my review? If so what do you make of it, I try to keep all me reviews totally fair and clearly map out the good and bad points of each site.

I haven't gone over it in detail yet, Sgt...I will as soon as I get back...been on vacation for two weeks so not doing much online.. ;)

Hopefully you are happy so far...Luke sent me a couple items on your list that we ARE addressing, mainly a search feature...definitely an issue when you have as much content as we have, which is more than anyone in the facesitting world...

micmacmad
08-14-2007, 10:21 AM
Hi all,

all i can say is that in my experience the vids dont work.

I was still a member when they stopped.

i downloaded some of the stopped ones again, and they worked fine again.. until they stopped again.

maybe its some error with my pc or password or whatever but its my experience of that website all the same.

Its never happened with any other website whos movies ive downloaded.

I payed alot more than a few quid.

It makes sense that the clips arent just for rental but for me they didnt work longer than a month or two at most.

But dont get me wrong the site is good and the models are stunners mostly so maybe its only me it wont work for.

Mic.

John
08-14-2007, 10:33 AM
micmacmad, send me an email at webmaster@mistressdestiny.com with your join info, please...I'm guessing this is an ooooooold membership and you had videos from before we switched to the new system we've used for over a year. There is an automatic system to get you all the videos you downloaded again if you lose them for some reason...

micmacmad
08-15-2007, 8:47 AM
OK, Will do.