Anaconda

[Mistress Sitter]

Hi All,
Chair was browsing newsgroups this morning and found this letter. I"m not posting it to ridicule Anaconda, but to warn you of what could happen. I certainly hope that this isn't a policy of theirs.
Subject: LETTER TO ANACONDA.COM
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:39:56 GMT
From: Poobah <poobah@NOSPAMflashmail.com>
Organization: The only good spammer is a DEAD spammer
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.femdom

To whom it may concern:

I am writing once more regarding my account with your site
(username: XXXXXX).

Less than 24 hours after you activated my account on the 17th of
January, 2003, my account was disabled. When I contacted you, you said
that it was because of excessive downloads, and accused me of trying to
download the entire site. I replied by apologizing for the excess
download, explaining that I had gotten carried away because it was my
first day, and there was an abundance of high-quality material on your
site. I also explained that my intention certainly was NOT to "download
the entire site", as my intention was to use a download manager
restricted to only an hour of downloads during off-peak hours at night
to spare both your and my bandwidth.

You then told me that I could not save images and videos to my
hard disk. I explained to you that even by viewing the material
directly off your site, images and videos are still saved to my
computer's cache whether we agree to it or not, so the end result is
exactly the same. I also explained that I needed to download material
at night for subsequent viewing, because it was not practical for me to
access an adult web site during the day.

I then asked that you reconsider your decision to cancel my
account less than 24 hours after activation. I proposed to keep
downloads to less than 30 minutes a day, and only at night in order to
save bandwidth for both you and me. This is a very fair offer on my
part, as I doubt that you'll find ANYONE who'll promise to visit your
site for less than thirty minutes a day!

As it stands, you are invoking abuse that is NOT defined on your
site for the cancellation of my account. The only notice I ever saw was
on the main members' page, a vaguely defined warning that I took to
mean the sharing of passwords with other parties. It was never my
intention to share my password with anyone, nor to make the content
available to anyone but myself. There were no mentions WHATSOEVER of
transfer limits, or of restrictions on saving material to one's hard
disk.

As it stands, your decision to cancel my account was done
arbitrarily and without proper warning to me. Your decision is unfair,
as there was no malice or intent of abuse on my part, and I have
offered a very reasonable compromise by limiting my downloads in the
future. I have tried to write to you, and I have even placed a long-
distance phone call to present my case, but I have received no
satisfactory response.

Aside from being unfair, your practice is also illegal. As I'm
sure you desire to operate within the law, you'll want to make sure
that your terms and services are PROPERLY and CLEARLY defined before
taking such drastic actions, which they are not.

I ask you to reconsider so that we may come to an agreement.
Otherwise, you leave me no choice but to take the appropriate action to
protect my rights as a consumer and recover the cost of membership.

[yosi]

I thanx for the information Mistress sitter
i wish it was the only paysite that so "nice" to its members.
but it is not...........
yosi

[tpop]

I too have had this problem with Anaconda. I found that I was denied access to the website a week after joining. However their reason for me was that people had logged in from different IPs with my password. Whether or not this is true, I'll never know, but again, if this happened it certainly wasn't a result of me giving a password out. The people who run this website are very strict about use of their website, but I'd be willing to bet that they cut off more innocent people than those who are guilty.

[dagwood4u]

That exact thing happened to me.

Solution (for me, that is)...to never, ever, ever join their site again.

And I will not.

They'll get the msg. eventually.

[bikeseat]

After reading all that, I am a bit confused, the guy joined a pay site, paid his fees and was then told he wasn't able to download! seems to me that most paysites I have seen offer 100,000's of pictures and 1,000s of clips to their members, yet you can't download more than a couple a day without having your access revoked ????

Fair enough this guy admits he got carried away on his first day, but failed to say what sort of connection he has got, is it broadband or dialup, if it was a dailup connection he'd be lucky to get one clip or about 30 images in half an hour, this is simply a case of the site being a rip. Makes me angry to think that sites like this will jump up and down when some posts their stuff, they accuse people of taking the food out of their mouths, yet what would they call behaviour of the kind they are involved in.

I don't want to sanction the following act but if I was this guy I would consider spidering the site and posting the results everywhere, maybe then they would get the message.

[noface]

That's a shame. I would think if you pay to access a sight such as that you should be able to download what you wish. If you don't resubscribe you won't be able to access future material and that should be limit enough in my mind. Anaconda has some beautiful women and great facesitting and facescissors, I like to think they are a good company.

[Smley]

In reading the posts about Anaconda, it brings back the idea that some of the web sites, are after only one thing, the consumer's money. They will give you any reason for not refunding your money, and, you are left trying to resort to legal means to get it back, which costs more money, not to mention time.

It reminds us of the old adage, Buyer beware, especially when dealing with companies or organizations doing business on the internet.

[John]

Realistically, it's not that most of these companies are cheats, it's that they are clueless about how to do things on the net and they hire webmasters that are almost as clueless as they are....

Not everyone can be brilliant... :D

[captain shu]

First of all when a customer pays money to join a website it has a responsibilty to post rules and regulations we know trading sharing passwords should result in prosecution but when a person who paid a fee to be a member of a site is resticted because he or she can download material at a high rate then i think the people running this company should either collect tolls in the exact change lane or pumping gas because they have no regard for the people who they are serving.:2guns: :2guns: :machine: :machine: :kissbutt: :kissbutt: :2guns: :2guns: :machine:

[MrCrypt]

I agree with all of you, but what it really comes down to is this:

When the webmasters for Anaconda see that there is a large download present, they automatically think that they're are ripping the site to share with everyone. But the face is, although illegal, unless they can prove it, they can't do anything about it. If you start a paid website, than you need to take accept the resposibility of the risk that anyone CAN and some WILL do it. But you gamble when you make a site like that. If they were smart, they would do what Smother.com did and put it all on a microsoft secure server so that they need to be logged in to view the content.

You're right, John. The webmasters there really are clueless. I haven't built a website in a few years, but I could still do it better than them. I would have been all over the security first. I would have built the site around the security and made it so the vids can't be DL'ed and saved outside the cache. Who cares about pictures. Anyone can get those high res pics. But the vids are the real gold.

MrCrypt

[Rich]

In today's world, with today's attitudes, I'm not suprised.
It's seems today's business people are clueless as to how to treat people. All they seem to know how to do is collect money. :cool:

[Facelove]

hallo everyone

The same happened to me, It's unbelievable, if you have a company, and you offer your content and I pay for it, why shouldn't see everything in the same day?
Why should I pay all the money they ask for in the same day?
they should provide an option, if I could pay 5 cents per clip, it’s ok!!!
So the would charge my credit card every time I download a clip!!! – crazy…
What hell – If I pay for it, what’s the f… problem? – I can download every day, the whole site, It’s my f… business, They should stop their member site.
They really don't know how to make business, It's a shame, I think they have to learn some costumer roles with the Brazilians, I have no problem with them, Once I had a problem, because I had to be out of town, and I ask for cancellation of my subscription, but I don't know what happened and I was charge, I sent them an e-mail and they credit my credit card immediately, I really don't like some American companies, sorry to say that.
by the way, the Brazilian site is: MFXvideo.com and now they release a new web site with 5 new movies every month, very good idea, check it out.
FacesittingBrazil.com (http://www.facesittingbrazil.com)

It's my f... opinion.:2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :2guns:

[trail]

Originally posted by Rich
In today's world, with today's attitudes, I'm not suprised.
It's seems today's business people are clueless as to how to treat people. All they seem to know how to do is collect money. :cool:

Agree a lot . Thats my impression also. Like I'm sick by attitudes of insurance companies, electricity companies:eek: :machine: - banks, cable tv, telephone & Isp companies and so on here in this country :barf: :2guns:

But I will say - my experience so far with facesitting & trample companies on the net (mostly in the Us) has not been bad at all:)
And Anaconda is the only (besides trample.com) where I have been member for one month.
I also got a warning - 'if downloading too much..' something. I downloaded quite some clips, and some pictures. But not very much. But I never got any problem.
I have a good impression of anaconda, where I also have bougth a few videos:cool:

[John]

I agree with trail...Anaconda is a good company and probably has some of the best stuff going...there is a big difference between being able to provide great content like Walter does and being able to run a well maintained website, unfortunately....

There is no reason for download limits or cutoffs or any of that...bandwidth is just TOO cheap...

In my opinion, it's hard to beat Anaconda for the down and dirty facesitting stuff, though...very nasty and entertaining vids... :D
Way to go, Walter!