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John
11-19-2002, 1:11 PM
What stops some of you from actually BUYING memberships to the sites that have this material? Any discussion?

Costs? Crappy content? Bad advertising? Ugly girls?
What is it? I know from extensive experience that only a small fraction actually ever buy....most just look for free (hmmm...this discussion is starting to sound familiar...hahaha)...

What would motivate you to actually JOIN, if anything...or will you never join any sites at all?

caljag
11-19-2002, 1:48 PM
John, I`d like to join some of these sites, But I hear all these stories on how they rip you off,such as your password stops working for no reason, or they charge your credit card to much. I wish it wasn`t a fact of just protecting your yourself. I would like to be able to post some pics here and be a better part of this forum. :help:

matty
11-19-2002, 1:57 PM
The Wife

I don't join any of the pay sites as usually have to pay with some sort of card and if found out could get me into trouble..........


matty

John
11-19-2002, 2:06 PM
Yeah, I have heard the fear of being ripped off one many times...

Many years ago, there definitely were sites that did this...Crescent Publishing was the biggest. They billed people many times, even after they cancelled, etc..it was a mess and finally took the FTC to get is straightened out...

The fact is this is near impossible to do anymore. VISA/MC have clamped down HARD on internet porn sites, making it so that your chances of getting ripped off is next to nothing...it's about time, too, because those scumbags were causing this fear and costing the honest people a lot of money...

sandalsole
11-19-2002, 2:33 PM
I have a problem w/ automatic renewals. I would rather join a site using my credit card for a period of one month and then renew at that point myself if I were still interested. Having to cancel before my card is charged again is a pain in the arse. Its easier for me to explain a one time fee to the wife than a recurring monthly charge because I didn't catch it in time.
Anyway, thats what gives me pause before joining sites.

John
11-19-2002, 2:40 PM
LOL, matty...that's a common one...although with 3rd party billers it's pretty easy to claim the charge was for anything you wanted....like a piece of software for the computer..

Hmmm...sandalsole, I would say that cancelling a site is a relatively easy process if the site is honest...takes about 10 seconds at trample.com - hardly a valid reason in my opinion, but it's good feedback for site owners if they think it may be a problem...

BTW, my experience has been that members do not want the hassle of signing up again every month...every so often a card would get declined because it finally expired, so the password would stop working...and the member would have a heart attack EVERY TIME....it's convenience for the member as well as for the site owner...

Seems billing issues are taking the cake so far...the fear of not being anon for the wife, ripped off, extra charges....very interesting...

Hey, that was sandalsoles first post! Welcome sandalsole!

:bananajum :bananajum :bananajum :bananajum

matty
11-19-2002, 3:03 PM
Also friends who I think would take the piss, once I ordered a magazine to my flat and it didn't arrive for a while. Then my landlord brought it into work and my friends opened it, lucky me that it had allsorts of fetishes in as well as mine so the just made my life hell for a while..........so a bad experience like that makes me feel that sharing get's me talking to other people who has the same trample fetish better than signing up to the like's of trample .com even though I know without site's like that we would not have many pic's mpegs to view.

matty...

slengteng
11-19-2002, 5:11 PM
I am interested in joining cqueensclub, but am nervous about reliability. I posted a question asking for anyones opinion who had been a member, and got no response. This made me a bit leery.
One site I have been a member to for many years, is Trample.com. Going way back to Cal-State productions, Foot Depot, I have had phone conversations with John about the videos when I was ordering, and even had free membership for quite awhile due to the number of videos I purchased.
Yes, those were the days of Kaitlyn freaking me out with fantasies come to life, and Rudy taking it all!
Still a member there to this day and will remain so, its one of the best ways I know of to support the trample community!:)

John
11-19-2002, 5:19 PM
Man, you are OLD SCHOOL, slengteng...hahaha

Wish I could help you about queensclub...I don't know anything about them... :o

slengteng
11-19-2002, 5:36 PM
John, in my opinion, you set the standard on how to deal with a customer, and I was always grateful for the respect with which I was treated. That standard still remains with the site today.
As for this board, I'm glad to have found it, I'm usually slow catching up with stuff, lol.
Daddo is incredible, I hope he sees my comment, I appreciate his contributions immensely!
I should reply more.

gol1ca
11-19-2002, 6:39 PM
hey john.

tried to join...but the site says it's not ready..

:confused:

bcurt
11-19-2002, 6:58 PM
John,
I can't speak for others, but for me...I have subscribed to various pay sites, T.com, Femdom.com, etc.
To be honest, I get bored with the updates, or lack of updates depending on the site and just move on.
I can honestly say I haven't posted any of the material that I've downloaded from these sites for one simple reason.....I don't have any original content of my own to post, and I'm damn sure not going to take credit for material that I didn't make and post it somewhere else. I suppose I could at least write of my own experiences (many fond memories), but I just don't have the literary skills of so many others here. So for now, until I find that trample goddess who will let me take photos, I just kind of sit back and watch.

PS - Any of you meatballs in Dallas know of any trample goddess's in TX?

Tabasco
11-19-2002, 7:06 PM
I have a hard time enjoying a site where the only content is abusive, dominant or derogatory. After a while each video / storyline begins to seem identical with the only variation being the girls involved or just what they're wearing (which usually comes off halfway through the film).

I personally feel that trample can just as easily be sensual, and mutually pleasurable and so far I have seen very few sites or films that reflect that.

Also, I feel that acting in a trample film is rather superfluous. Most of the time, I guess there really is no script with dialogue per say, just a scenario and a lot of improvisation.

Some of my favorite clips were the early Rastatrample clips in which the girls were simply playing around and obviously giving him pleasure.

This is just one guy's opinion, but I ran a poll on Daddo's old trample board and got a surprisingly high number of votes for the amateur/sensual trample style.

Hope this is helpful.

Backwalk
11-19-2002, 7:53 PM
I belong to a few, but the three reasons I haven't joined any new sites in awhile are:

1. Infrequent Updates
2. Repetitive scenarios (EVERYONE loves brutal heels, but me :( )
3. Cost ( My credit cards are about maxed out)

I loved trampletemple.com when it came out. I loved the fact that it was different than the usual "dom & slave" stuff. It took a "new-age" look on trample. Flip-flops, moccasins, and the usual heels were used. Unfortunately, they just aren't updating at all.
Another problem I had was with sites I tried to cancel out of. It took me forever to end one sit'e charging me. Finally, I said to renew, as I've been paying for it for almost a year. I haven't heard back from them, thankfully.
As soon as something REALLY grabs the 'nads, I'll join. Until then, I get a fair representation of what's out there thru this board.
My 1/12 cents worth...
BW

John
11-19-2002, 8:08 PM
gol1ca, this site is not open for membership...that's why you would not be able to join...

Tabasco brings up a good point...I've heard sensual trample being brought up before, but honestly...sales NEVER revealed it to be popular...it was always the most brutal, most humiliating, etc...that drew the most attention and $$....

Here's my theory on that....there are people that LIKE trample...it's something they find pleasureable, both physically and conceptually...and then there are the people that NEED it...it's their main sexual outlet to be truly satisfied...

THESE are the people that tend to put out the $$ and because they are so hardcore, they want go all the way...fetishes have a way of growing...you need to expand your horizons and experiences futher and further, especially as you practice them...if they are just things you dream about and don't put into play, it's relatively simple to downplay the importance...

Just a theory... :D

The Penguin
11-19-2002, 10:15 PM
What prevents me from joining?
1. wife is nosey about credit card bill
2. fear of getting ripped off and as its a "porn site"the
embaresment of calling the credit card co to fix it
3. the entrance to the pay sites for example TDC doesn't show
enough for me and its like a vortex sucking you in I feel that I'm going to get sandbagged particularly as "the tour harshly redirects you to their pay page

4 the sites seem too comercialised too slick and not what I want
5 The harsh spam when you leave the site a ton of windows sandbaggs your computor when you leave IT PISSES ME OFF AND THERE's NO WAY I WILL PAY AFTER HAVING THAT DONE TO ME.
I do have a fire wall that I can use now I used to have to shut down my comp to stop the spam before
6 I'm a cheap Bastard

door_step
11-20-2002, 12:29 AM
What stops some of you from actually BUYING memberships to the sites that have this material?

To me, credit card payment is the biggest obstacle. I just don’t do any payments on the internet (anymore) with credit card.

I did join OMCB board, mainly for the trample stories. The payment is possible by ordinary mail, so cash. I don’t have any problem with that and the possibility of being “ripped of” is limited to a fairly small amount. (Please don’t take me wrong: I absolutely don’t think that they will cheat!)

Furthermore, there are so many sites that it’s hard to make a choice. It’s already very difficult just to keep up with this board and OMCB.
Although it would be nice, it’s impossible to sit behind the PC all day.

doorstep

turbs
11-20-2002, 1:23 AM
I'm with Tabasco on this one. The only site i ever joined was rasta's back when he was alone. I never had any problems with the credit card issue or was i ever worried. If you're over billed just call your credit card company and cancel the charges, I've done that and had no problems.

I prefer amateur pics myself, sure the pay sites produce a higher quality picture and perfect models and all, but nothing beats sensuallity in a pic.

i also don't like the idea of pay sites jumping on a ban wagon just to make money without putting any heart in it. And they usually never produce anything original, it's all been done before. Stuff that people like stryder put out is awsome and i think we all agree here.

Knowing that someone is doing it free just for the pure enjoyment of it somehow transmits a vibe with the picture(or whatever).

I'm also a cheap ass son of a bitch hahaha. But seriously, all payments are in US funds and god knows we all know what the Canadian dollar is worth. A monthly fee will easily exceed $35 a month in Can funds. A bit pricey to see stuff that's been circulating for free for the past couple years.

My .85 Can cents :D

turbs

Slaveinal
11-20-2002, 5:52 AM
Over the years I have gotten membership with about half dozen sights. For one month only each time. After a few days of browsing you can usually see all there is to see on any given sight. A few stand out as superior to the others. Cruella and OWK are excellent, because they have lengthy clips, hundreds of pictures that are fine quality and happen to hit on most any fetish or D/s theme that footboys and submissives love. Also I enjoyed Anaconda becuse of the delightful "cruelty" that those young ladies exhibit when they torture their victims. Cuccio has beautiful young ladies and nice themes but only has that one apartment to do their scenes. Femmedom.com is good too, but poor quality clips.
The fact that I found all of these sights from this forum proves that at least one customer has ventured out to enjoy many countless hours of enjoyment for a usually good price. I have purhased a couple dozen videos (several with MsDestiny,sigh the best). So John, because of you and Daddo, I have to extend a vote of thanks to you and the many other guys, and ladies who have shared so much with me over the years. Also, many times when I have shown lady friends the clips, pictures and tapes, they often are willing to try these types of domination as well as others.

Slaveinal
11-20-2002, 6:03 AM
P. S. That picture is of CTProdomme1, MsLaura, a wonderful lady. Any of you guys in the CT area might think of contacting her to spend some time in her dungeon. The rug is me

Carlo31
11-20-2002, 8:23 AM
I prefer amateur pics myself, sure the pay sites produce a higher quality picture and perfect models and all, but nothing beats sensuallity in a pic.

Paul, could i ask you what is your concept of sensuallity ?
Amateur=sensuallity, all the rest=unreal ?
Or better, what do you mean by amateur ?
Pics made by a couple or simply girls dressed in jeans or sneakers that make it only for their own pleasure ?
Because (if you mean the second case)I can tell you that even the so called amateur pictures on the net or in the old Rasta site (which I am happy you enjoyed so much) have models that got money as well to be so amateur and so spontaneus :)

I didn't agree with you that perfect or better dressed models are not sensuals.
I think that there isn't anything more sensual than a girl dressed in a sexy way that don't hide his femininity
But that's only my point of view of course

You know Paul, there are also people that prefer amateur soccer,than professional soccer.
It's a question of tastes of course
But while there are about 300 supporters going to the stadium to follow their beloved amateur team each sunday, there are 80.000 supporters that follow their professional team the same day.
So if the mathematic is not an opinion, and coming back to our fetish I could not blame so much about sites trying to be professional because they seems to be much more appreciated from most of people

That's my 99 per cent

turbs
11-20-2002, 12:48 PM
Carlo, Like I said, I was talkinb about most paysites. You and rasta put out some very good pictures and although i never joined your site, from what i hear it is one of the best out there. And knowing you two I'm sure it's true. There are exceptions you know, and you are one of them.

turbs

barracuda426
11-20-2002, 12:55 PM
I also agree with Tabasco.. I enjoy actually seeing real life situations rather than staged in a studio. Also, I always read the stories before I come to the picture section. Honestly I have well over 5k pics and vids(3.8k on the hdd now, more on cd's) I've collected over the years. It's gotten repetitive enough that I don't even save .000000000000001% of the pictures I look at now. (Although I do appreciate the stories and pictures people do post)And in case you wonder why I don't post them.. well A) I have no idea where I got them unless it's marked on the photo(except for a few obvious people) and I definetely don't want an ass chewing for not giving credit. B) A sizable portion is stuff Daddo has posted, which means most the the people here have probably already seen it. I don't mind posting pics but I don't want to hear about not telling where it came from, 'cause if I don't say then I don't know.

'cuda

barracuda426
11-20-2002, 1:01 PM
Hey, here's a thought.. maybe we could get MistressValerie to do a video for us!!! She seems like the sensual type... :eyebrows: :D

'cuda

cyberwop
11-20-2002, 1:47 PM
I dislike the credit card thing also. wife.

But woman worship lets you pay by online check. I have a small account for personal use not connected to my real accounts.

Setup a small account at a bank and join WW. They update on mon and fridays with new stuff and repost old every few days. Great site.

NZrug
11-20-2002, 3:34 PM
Like most my wife would have a problem with reistering via the credit card.. she went balistic :machine: when i signed up for paypal.

she has no problems and knows I come here :D and look at videos and pics etc which is why i think eventually i will have some of pics and vids of us for you all

finally .. like most others .. 1mth youve seen it all, and im cheap.

nothing against rasta, cucciolo, heidi and the ladies from femaledom.com but sometimes you know the kicks and poses arent real and i would rather see the real thing. thats why i come here. people like heely and stryder, VQ and the rest who come up with the goods for us all.. I hope one day to be able to post like them but until then i come here, check it out , say my bit from time to time and leave again until next time.

Carlo31
11-20-2002, 4:09 PM
but sometimes you know the kicks and poses arent real and i would rather see the real thing. thats why i come here

NZrug, those are not real for you?
Maybe just tomato juice ? :D

lildog
11-20-2002, 6:07 PM
Actually, I joined T.com, Femaledom.com, cucciolo's site and Ms moon.
I had no trouble with any of them.

John
11-20-2002, 6:11 PM
Just in case anyone was wondering, I FORCED him into joining trample.com - he had no choice...

oh, I am SUCH a :devil:

cjx
11-20-2002, 6:24 PM
Hi

I've joined many pay sites, and only about 25% have really been worth it. One particularly bad one was a site called mistressisha.com, which promised tons of pics and delivered less than a hundred. This is one of the things that makes people wary of paying.

Carlo's site is one of the excellent ones, with tons of material. A big plus point about this site is that he doesn't delete any pics at all. On the subject of sensuality though, sorry Carlo, but in my opinion a lot of your pics are definitely lacking it somewhat.

All the right ingredients are there, the models are lovely, and the trampling is harsh, but with a few exceptions the pictures are basically the same every set, with the girls simply dressed in different costumes/footwear. It looks far too "directed". And I rarely see any of the girls smiling or seeming to enjoy themselves, it seems more like they are just doing a job.

No offence it's still a great site
cjx

Carlo31
11-20-2002, 6:42 PM
Nice point and I have to agree with you about some point you went through
The fact is that honestly sometime is not easy to mix heavy action with smiling faces
I think it's quit difficult for a girl that is jumping on your head, standing on your face with her shoes,to smile all the time
An aggressive attitude it's normal that show an aggressive face or expression.Don't you agree ?
It's true also than some of our girls enjoy what they are doing more than other.That depends only of different personality of each single girl.
Some need to be directed especially at the begin some other can run herself.
That's only because we have a standard of action we would like to keep.If a girl is too soft, that's not our standard and what we get used to do.
Usually I think the normal atmosphere especially during the videos is nice and funny even if the action is hard.And I can tell you in all honesty that girls that gave me the impression to be here just to do their work they are not with us anymore.

Thanks for your input and suggestions and to take your time to express your constructive opinion

Tabasco
11-20-2002, 9:03 PM
Something which may sort things out for anyone who runs a pay site.

The reason why amateur trample appeals to us so much is beacuse the entire notion of viewing a trampe image or clip helps encourage our own sense of fantasy. We get most of our pleasure not from watching a girl stomp a guy, but from imagining we ARE the guy being stomped.

Amateur is exactly that. A scene in which the participants are NOT getting paid. It is easier, for me at least, to put myself in the guy's shoes because I could never see myself paying a girl to trample me. Why is she doing that if she doesn't get paid? Iether it's fun for her and she enjoys it, or the guy asked her to and she likes him enough to oblige. Ideally, it's both. When I fantasize about being trampled, it rarely involves me having to pay for the experience.

Though it would be hard to pull off, I think a site which features solely amateur content would do extremely well.

Carlo31
11-20-2002, 9:29 PM
Well Tabasco, thanks for your clear explanation.
This make sense and I understand your point of view
The only problem is that this ideal situation you described so well it's almost difficult if not impossible to realize
First you have to find girls that enjoy to trample without any money involved (that's hard but not impossible)
Second step, those girls supposed to enjoy without any recompensation have to agree to use their image for a pay site.
Apart from College trample and the old steve with those pictures made on the street with the "amateur girls" you are talking about I don't remember many other examples and honestly these kind of actions are not my cup of tea
In most of those cases we can't talk about trampling but simply resting ,posing simply feet on a man's back for a few seconds.Call it victory pose, call it sensual position enjoyable till you want but don't call it trample for its definition
You can't talk about trample when there isn't any sort of connection with it
But my main doubt is.Does those girls on the street know that these innocent pitures will be used for a paying site.Does they should agree to put their face for a paying site and does they gave their written permission for that ?

Thanks for your deep though and analisys tabasco

turbs
11-21-2002, 1:40 AM
Well I was going to elaborate more now that i have more time then when i did my last post, but once again tabasco beat me to the punch. I think i found my lost twin haha.

turbs

john19975
11-21-2002, 3:38 AM
I agree with most people, the credit card thing scares me Maybe E-Bay or a major internet co. A little pron site that might be gone tomorrow and they have CC # ? I would like to post, but I'm tring to make some pic's of my own, instead of posting other peoples work
Thanks for this Great forum !
John Paul ,PS, Anyone in this forum on the Eastern Shore of Maryland or Delaware ??

turbs
11-21-2002, 3:52 AM
Well I'm not in that area but i know who is.

She is...

mikeyb
11-21-2002, 4:27 AM
Hmmm... alot of CC# concerns out there. I personally have never had a problem with my CC being used and abused. I have joined, I have cancelled many trample sites without any trouble. Maybe I am lucky? I don't think so, I just think you can determine which are reputable. ESPECIALLY websites that have a FREE forum section. Suppose John started a pay area, and started screwing people, they would all post right here in the free forum section, and his memberships would disappear. I think you are safe with the websites that are personal, as opposed to "corporate", for lack of a better word. For example, Ms. Christina, Mistress Moon. This is something they obviously enjoy, and were smart enough to turn into a business.

What do I like:

1. Vareity
2. Attractive girls/no obesity
3. Real girls
4. Regular updates
5. Real senarios

For me, this earns my CC#. Vareity, different girls, nationalities, looks, clothes/outfits. I don't enjoy naked porn stars trampling nearly as much as I like real girls. Give me Emma over a porn star acting out a script anyday. And please no stupid shit like some guy going to some girls house to sell her vitamins, and she happens to get mad at him so she pull him in her house, and tramples him while she just happens to be wearing nothing. I love everyday girls, in everyday clothes, or business clothes, or club outfits, walking on a man while smiling, or looking pissed off, or both.

john19975
11-21-2002, 9:12 AM
Miss Dove, have seen her site, she lives about 60 Miles from me.
Saw her in a club on night in OC MD, but did not know who she was until I found her site.But the only pboblem is , I DON"T pay for it ! I"ve had 300 or so women walk or sit on me, it"s not that hard to find if you go about right !
John Paul

doubleback
11-21-2002, 10:32 AM
i have joined womanworship.com ,femaledom.com ,hotlegsandfeet.com , and im very satisfied with cc.bill .There havent been any problems at all ,would be nice to hear about other credit-companies ,how they work if they are any problems. As said before i also think the rebilling is a bit annoying . just leave an option if we want to be rebilled or not.

NZrug
11-21-2002, 5:56 PM
Carlos.. dont get me worng.. i love the stuff i see from the paying sites especially yours and the others i listed before and would love to join but for me at this stage it isnt a reality...

I know its real, shes standing on you for gods sake ... how much more real can it be and yes i have seen many pics of you battered and bleading afterwards (hows stryder doing by the by) but alot of the foot models used put very little weight thru the heel onto the tramplee and both are smiling.. I know when my wife stands on me in heels i dont smile if theres any weight on the heel, let alone if its on the bareskin and not thru a shirt first..

I spose it has something to do with backgrounds and amiture photography etc.. i love the emmas kingdom stuff as the backgrounds are different, everyday stuff, you can here him squeeling, her laughing and it just seems more real than a model on a guy infront of a sheet hung from a wall.. (im not saying thats how they all are but i hope you get my drift)

NZrug

Carlo31
11-21-2002, 8:10 PM
Got it Nzrug !
Thanks for your clear opinion.I understand perfectly your feeling now and I agree about most of things you say.
Let me just say that when heels are involved I don't smile at all, believe me..
No way for the shirt i should'nt agree more with you
I've never used a shirt if not in a couple of occasions because of the scenario as for example in the video of dalmatians,where the hot inside those clothes was a nightmare worst then the heels themselves :)
It has no sense to use a shirt especially with heels, totally agree
About the fact to change scenario i agree as well.
Till now we have changed girls, we have changed ideas, we have changed clothes, we have changed shoes, we have changed type of actions videos by videos...we'll change also the location in the future trying to turn in different places...
Thanks to share your opinion.I appreciated it :)

footoepia
11-21-2002, 8:25 PM
I see that you have been trampled by DoveGoddess. She's a great woman and a great trampler! I really enjoyed doing my photo shoots with her. Did she do any jumping on you?? There's also a few new pics on my site of her from the last trip I made to her. (sorry no trample shots)

"Toepia"

trmpl_face
11-22-2002, 7:37 AM
this is (almost) a funny question, John. he, he. like 'i want your money, how could i get it?'. yes, yes, i know, you're giving somethin in return.

i've been member of trample.com, fetish.com, stardeck9.com (when it was run by Misa), and 3 or 4 other pay sites whose names i've forgotten, meanwhile.

my longest memberships lasted about 1 year (stardeck9, fetish.com), all others between 1 and 3 months.

there have been several main reasons to quit membership (or to not become a member). it are:

[1] boredom: at first, it was nice. later, i got bored. it's like eating the very same food five times a day, seven days a week. i didn't enjoy it anymore. and, specially, i didn't want to pay for it anymore because i didn't enjoy it anymore. and this was true, no matter, whether it had been those thousands of images from trample.com or those doubious changements in sexual contents (from exiting high heel trample stuff to boring barefoot worship stuff) at fetish.com--who lost me, when famous Angie left fetish.com. btw, old stardeck9.com had been the pay site i had enjoyed most.

[2] technical problems: more often than not, current memberships require enabled cookies, java scripts, etc. this is a problem when protecting your box by a personal firewall (i.e. atguard) or come thru a proxy firewall (i.e. from a university). also, you are pretty often required to use ms IE (because of the shitty ms java from the pay site), which i refuse. an additional problem is that those pay sites leave their marks, signs in your box--which may be found by other users. btw, even this forum leaves its marks and even when deleting all cookies: makromedia saves mrs. Destiny's full address in the flashplayer's directory.

[3] money: it's pretty expensive when coming via modem. and it's even more expensive when you need to pay per minute both, provider and phone company. you may say 'those 10 or 20 USD for a 4 weeks membership isn't too much compared to what you get'. this may be true--but just within the first three days. an _uninterrupted_ download of 1 MB takes about 5 minutes. however, you need about 15 to 20 minutes for downloading 1 MB because of interruptions and breaks. in 1996, when i was member of fetish.com, my phone bill increased from USD 50 up to USD 800 within the first month of membership, and the same was true for the bill from my ISP. hey, you only need this experience for one time, don't you think? btw, i'm tired of paying for things that i can get for free. and if it's not from your page, it's from another one.

[4] lack of fantasy: most pay sites, specially, US pay sites lack (sexual) fantasy. it's (not all but mostly) just business and profit. unfortunately, the pictures and clips mirror this attitude: more or less professional, however, just 'show' and 'plastic'. pictures and clips are missing the excitement, the 'dry mouth' which you feel i.e. when looking at stryder's pictures, or many pictures or clips from jp or chinese pages or start reading one of the stories from the story section ('leafman', a great one).

these are the main reason, for me, err, i think. there are three or four minor reasons, too. but, i think also, you get the general idea.

John
11-22-2002, 7:47 AM
Nice points, all...

trmpl_face, one thing...I don't need your money ;)

trmpl_face
11-22-2002, 7:59 AM
he, he. you already got it. :)

John
11-22-2002, 8:03 AM
Oh good! What should I buy first? hahaha

trmpl_face
11-22-2002, 9:28 AM
you're ok, John. :)

there's another point which just came to my mind, and which, unfortunately, can not be affected or changed: it's plagiatism (hopefully, the word exists in English). say, someone has a promising and exciting idea for images, clips etc. then, almost 'immediately' the same pictures and clips pop up from everywhere. your brutal trampling, the high heel face standing, fetish.com had it about one or two weeks later. fetish.com's sitting chair, you had it. three or four people from mr rugman's board were crying for barefoot stuff, worship--it poped up, that drowning in the bath idea ... and so on, and so on. meanwhile, there are so many trample pay sites and each idea shows at each site. you pay for one site, and you receive it all, sometimes worse in quality compared to the original ones, sometimes even better. i think that, in deed, lost originality is a problem, because people cannot identify the (your) company by the original product anymore.

turbs
11-22-2002, 11:26 AM
Dove did do a bit of jumping on me. She jumped on my back with her keds. I had never tried that before but she had and she really enjoys it so I gave it a try. It was pretty fun. Did she trample you as well footoepia?

turbs

trmpl_face
11-23-2002, 5:48 AM
John, there is a final point--the most important one, i think:

most people are working. this is 9 hours. say 1 or 2 more horus for driving, buying food etc., take 3 or 4 more hours for reading stories, downloading pictures, clips from this or any other board. this is a total of 14, 15 hours per day. add time for family, hobbies, friends, the lokal pub etc. and, suddenly, you don't find time anymore for visiting pay sites.

footoepia
11-23-2002, 9:09 AM
Turbs
Yes we did do some trample after our first photo shoot together. She trampled me in low black chunck heels and also jumped on my chest a few times in her stockings.

"Toepia"