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chairboy
08-10-2004, 5:08 AM
ok.....time for an update to see how the pay sites are faring these days.....

SMOTHER.DE
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Clips? 9/10
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yes, the clip quality has greatly improved....bigger screen size, longer clips, and better pic quailty. can't fault.

Updating? 9/10
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they seem to have also changed that; whereas before, an update used to occur like so:

1 pic set
followed 3 days later by clip

repeat.....

now, they update with 1 set and 1 clip together every 5 days or so.

Content? 7/10
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much of the same....this can be interpreted as good or bad depending on the individual......

Models? 7.5/10
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generally, they're all pretty good.....but the odd not-so-nice 1 or 2 seem to slip in now and again.....i also don't really understand their policy on models......there are always requests for certain girls to be used in the pic and clips sets, but it always seems to fall on deaf ears......maybe they'd fare better otherwise......


Cost/Value? 8/10
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22$ | 17.99 EURO | 13 odd £

pretty good for the content.

Recommendations
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i would definitely rec. this site to anybody who hasn't been a member previously.....however, if you have been and weren't too impressed by the style, then maybe not.....

Overall: 8/10
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compared to the rest out there.....this is a very good site.....i personally get a bit pissed off with them.....but as this review is meant to be general and open to everybody.....it's probably the best site out there at the minute.

chairboy
08-10-2004, 5:18 AM
JEANSSITTING.COM
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Clips? 9/10
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as with smother.de......the clip quality has greatly improved....bigger screen size, longer clips, and better pic quailty. can't fault.

Updating? 6/10
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not as frequent as smother.de.....also quite annoying, as they upload a pic set then the accompanying clip 3 or 4 days later.....

Content? 7/10
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as smother.de only with jeans on......

Models? 7.5/10
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as smother.de......they seem to hire a model for the day, and then she has to do sets for smother.de, jeanssitting, sado-girls, etc. etc.
again....the policy is slightly strange....jeanssitting has a member forum (which has been down for quite some time) where this is constant requests for such and such a girl.....then you'll get a reply saying 'yes, we try and do this' but nothing seems to happen....


Cost/Value? 7/10
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1 euro less than smother.de (16.99)

they've changed the price....i'm pretty sure it was more than that previously..... the updates are slightly infrequent for the money to be good value.

Recommendations
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i would definitely rec. this site to anybody who hasn't been a member previously.....however....it is virtually smother.de in jeans, so you have been warned if you don't like the style....

Overall: 7/10
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personally, i like this site.....and as it's pretty much the only jeans site out there, it does well.....but it's gonna be one of those where you either hate jeans or love it.....hence the 7/10.

chairboy
08-10-2004, 5:28 AM
FACESITTINGLADY.COM
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Clips? 2/10
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poor....very poor
they have actually recently added sound to their clips (after an eternity of waiting) but, all the old clips nonetheless don't have sound.....
not only this, but the sizing and quality of the clips are generally very poor....you have to watch the clips in about a 150px window.....and it's still not very clear......they also only last about 28 seconds.....

Updating? 5/10
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every 4-6 days....rotated between clips and pic sets;

e.g

10/08/2004 - 3 clips

15/08/2004 - 1 pic set

repeat......

Content? 5/10
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the pic sets are good, as they capture some good shots of fullweight....however, unfortunately this sin't carried through into the clips, where miss jackson seems incapable of sitting longer than 2 seconds without getting up.....very frustrating....

Models? N/A
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miss jackson has without doubt one of the best physiques for facesitting.....so on a personal score, 9/10.

Cost/Value? 8/10
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13.99 euro

price has doubled since the site first came out.....but still a good price for what you get.

Recommendations
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if you're mad on clips, then don't bother....however, if you like pic sets, then yes.

Overall: 5/10
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i personally feel that this site could be much much better if more effort was put into the content produced.....i also think they should produce more videos and an ordering system.

chairboy
08-10-2004, 5:35 AM
BBWFACESITTING.COM
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Clips? 4/10
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the sizing and quality of the clips are generally not good....like facesittinglady, you have to watch the clips in about a 150px window.....and it's still not very clear......they also only last about 28 seconds.....

however, the latest clips are much much better, but there isn't enough of them yet to get excited about.

Updating? 3/10
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every 7 days i think.....

Content? 5/10
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the pic sets are good, as they capture some good shots of fullweight, but again like miss jackson, the clips are disappointing as they don't last long enough.

Models? 8/10
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excellent for the purpose of the site

Cost/Value? 4/10
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24.95$

not the greatest for the content in return

Recommendations
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if you like bbw's and you haven't joined yet, then yes.....

Overall: 5/10
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chairboy
08-10-2004, 5:41 AM
SISTAS-RULE.COM
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Clips? 3/10
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poor quality overall......picture, sizing, sound and length...all could be improved upon.

Updating? 3/10
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every monday......one clip update a month, i think....

Content? 7/10
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the pic sets are very very good, as they capture some good shots of fullweight, but unfortunately the clip side of things let them down.

Models? 9/10
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pretty damn good.....good variety, and very sexy women.

Cost/Value? 8/10
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14.95$

can't really grumble at that price....

Recommendations
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if you've not joined, most defeinitely.....however, i was slightly disappointed by the pic set/clip ratio....there's far more pics than clips.

Overall: 7/10
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worth the money, if they get their act together with the clips.....i believe more members would come flocking through the login box...

chairboy
08-10-2004, 5:52 AM
FETISH-FILM.CH
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Clips? N/A: see below
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very good quality.....however, as fetish film have a paysite AND a pay download site, i have made comments on both

paysite clips: 1/10
there simply isn't enough of them to be quite honest.....ite seems about 3 clip updates in 1 year, which obviously isn 't good.....but....

pay download clips: 10/10
i absolutely love pay download clips...... so much easier for the customer to look at what he wants, pay a really tiny fee, download it, and watch it....and the clips also come in very high quality format.
you can't ask for any more......you simply can't complain at that system, as you know exactly what you're paying for.....

Updating? 9/10
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every day....albeit mostly pic sets.....not 100% facesitting either, they have categories like 'butts' 'riding' etc.

Content? 8/10
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excellent pic sets.

Models? 8/10
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good variety....not the best looking, but marco and vanessa have a nack for choosing girls with good bodies on them....

Cost/Value? N/A
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paysite: 7/10
19.00 euro
more for the pic sets than the clips.....

pay clip section: 10/10
how can you argue with a pay download price?

Recommendations
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yes, definitely worth joining 1st time....however, if you like clips then don't join the member section and spend the money on a few clips from the download section instead.

Overall: 8/10
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the above score is combined for teh paysite and pay download clip site.

chairboy
08-10-2004, 5:53 AM
please feel free to add any comments you have below......
:) :D

Marco
08-10-2004, 6:07 AM
hi chairboy

great work and much thanks.

your voting is fair

Do you tested other sites too ???

What do you think about a webpage with votings for websites ? that will helping many people to join and the webmaster can see what they can do better.

i think about something like they do it in a playstation or car magazine with points for grafix, sound, speed - about facesitting and femdom sites we can vote about content, updates, pic size and many more :-)

best regards and go on

Faceseat
08-10-2004, 6:20 AM
Chairboy, I appreciate the time that you took to make that post. I have to agree with you 100 % on your reviews. Excellent work, I couldnt have done it better myself.
:thumbsup:

undrneath1
08-10-2004, 11:49 AM
Chairboy, you did a great job with the reviews. Thanks for taking the time to do this.

Everyone here who wants to review a site should use Chairboy's system since he hits on all the important features one needs to look at to make a decision on joining or not.

sittingpillow
08-10-2004, 12:29 PM
Thanks for taking the time to do that Chairboy,its a lot of help.

chairboy
08-11-2004, 1:01 AM
thanks for the comments :D

if it all helps other people, then it was worth the effort ;)

btw.....there are a few sites missing, that i haven't been a member of......would anyone like to post an honest review about these sites? (no spamming etc. please....just honest reviews aimed at the general public and not so much your own personal opinion.)

sites yet to be reviewed:
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romanvideo.com
meanbitches.com
smother.com
smothered.com
j-fetish

humanchair
08-11-2004, 11:30 AM
Meanbitches.com
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Clips? N/A: see below
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This is similar to fetish-film.ch in the sense that it has videos for members and videos for the femdom theatre.

paysite clips: 7/10
If you look at the Meanbitches.com update page you'll see that every update comes with atleast one video clip. Although some of the video clips weigh in under 2 minutes, there are some really impressive member clips such as the 11 minute POV slave order with Mika Tan. Meanbitches.com updates the paysite clips atleast 5 or 6 times each week.

pay download clips: 8/10
There are constant updates with the femdom theatre. There is a great selection of Pussyman, Vanessa Blue, and Crystal White videos. There is also a wide selection of pricing. You can spend as little as $2.95 or up to $16.95 to purchase video clips. Meanbitches.com recently started to add full scenes from the femdom dvds such as "Mean Bitches in Heat #1" and "Legends of Facesitting #1" Once it catches up with Romanvideo.com and other sites in full scene downloads the ranking could easily move to a ten. There are updates for the femdom theatre atleast 5 or 6 time each week. Unlike anaconda.com you can save the video clips forever on your hard drive.

Updating? 10/10
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There is atleast a dual update to the femdom theatre and to the member section 5 or 6 times each week. One unique part of meanbitches.com is the weekly POV slave orders.

Content? 9/10
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As the home page states: "If you are looking for facesitting, foot worship, ass worship, role-playing/humiliation, and a darn good sense of humor, you have come to the right place. You have found a home..." There is almost always nude facesitting in each of the photo shoots. Besides from the normal videos and the photo shoots, this site has a lot of unique content. The captions below each picture in the photostories and POV slave orders set this site apart and make the photo shoots more interactive. The design and navigation in the member section is simple and easy. If you are on broadband you should have no problem at all with the speed of your downloads. In the member section you will find several great multi-mistress photo shoots such as "Escaped Convict" featuring Taylor St. Claire, Chelsea Blue, and Crystal White. However, these multi-mistresss shoots tend to now show up in the femdom theatre instead of the member section.

Models? 9/10
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The interactive femdom photostories include famous porn stars such as Taylor St. Claire, Crystal White, Mercedes Ashley, Alexis Amore and many more! The photostories, POV slave orders, and profiles of the models (including a list of the porn movies and photo shoots in which you can find more of her). There is an abundance of new models coming on the site and in the femdom theatre each month.

Cost/Value? N/A
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paysite: 8/10 Although you won't get to be part of the Diamond International/ fetishbucks.com membership ring like with smother.com, you will get plenty of facesitting, ass worship, femdom, and humiliation. $19.95 for 30 day membership or 90 Day Membership for $49.95 is a great deal. At the rate of updating, this site will easily have enough value to perfectly justify the cost.

pay clip section: 10/10 like chairboy said, "how can you argue with a pay download price? " you pay only for what you view! Just download the clips you want to see.

Recommendations
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This site is highly recommended for first time members to check out. Even when you are not a paying member, this site is still worth checking out for the femdom theatre. The abundance of nude facesitting makes this a top-notch facesitting site.

Overall 8.5/10
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According to a poll on this forum http://www.mistressdestiny.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=21432&highlight=site
meanbitches.com came in a close second to smother.de. However, please keep in mind, meanbitches.com was late coming into the polls. With that said, the poll clearly shows Smother.de is the best facesitting site based in Europe and Meanbitches.com is the best facesitting site based in the United States.

bbq
08-11-2004, 11:55 AM
CHAIRBOY you must have the patients of a SAINT ( I know, I know you think Religion :thebird:, but it is just an old saying that we all live with :rolleyes: )

humanchair
08-11-2004, 12:09 PM
To add to chairboy's
sites yet to be reviewed:
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smothermenow.com
lick-my-ass.net
Venus-girls.com
misscrystal.com

motuman
08-11-2004, 12:30 PM
Chairboy,

Allow me to add my thanks for your painstaking reviews! I had been a member of smother.com and then tried bbwfacesitting.com and sistas-rule.com, but canceled both within the month. No real complaints about the content of any of these sites, although I kept hoping that sistas-rule.com would get nastier and I was always puzzled as to why so many otherwise nice shots were "ruined" by Willy facing into the cushion instead of pointing his nose right up the mistress' ass. Oh well. To each their own.

Good job again and thanks for the info.

Motuman

Faceseat
08-11-2004, 1:00 PM
I agree 100 %. Sistas site started out pretty good and then declined ALOT. The pictures seemed to focus on Willy more than the SISTAS. The clips are not long enough and the SISTAS are not mean enough to the slave.
JUST MY OPINION.
:banghead: :bore:

shane
08-11-2004, 1:36 PM
Just wanted to make a correction to chairboy's review of bbwfacesitting.com. the post states that our video clips are viewd at about a 160 px viewing window. That is the viewing size of the 56k clips. All of the clips in our members area are available in 320x240 px.

humanchair
08-11-2004, 3:10 PM
would John be willing to do the review for smother.com? It'd be interesting to see how his views are since he sold the site.

sexymonk
08-11-2004, 10:10 PM
Chairboy,
I too want to thank you for all the effort you put into reviewing these sites. It's good to get an objective opinion before one makes a decision to join. Your expertise is much appreciated.

Kudos also to humanchair for his comments on our friend Webmaster Bob's Meanbitches.com. I too have enjoyed my membership on that site also. I second his comments! The clips and photoshoots are a must-see. Very hot women with tons of
nude facesitting. I also gotta recommend the POV slave orders.
If you get the chance, you should check these out. The clips sizzle! Almost like having a meanbitch in your house ordering you around(besides your girlfriend).

Thanks again,

Sexymonk

Richy
08-15-2004, 2:32 AM
Fetish.com?

I joined their site in the past, but only for the deal on cheaper videos - site members get three for the price of two.

Because I have a very slow connection speed, it wouldn't be worth while for me to join any site - to get my money's worth, I'd have to stay online several hours a day - much as I love facesitting, I don't want to be stuck on a computer all the time - besides, it's addictive! :)

When I was a member, though, I found the site was extremely well done – not surprising, considering how long they've been doing it! They also have a policy of not deleting any of their older content! So new members will not have missed anything... A very good policy, in my opinion.

Also, they have a part of their site that just shows the latest new video releases in one section, plus all the older videos/DVDs that are currently on sale at half price for that month.

If you joined their site, I don't think that anyone could be disappointed with it - something for everyone!


RomanVideo.com.

Full of stuff I'd never seen before, the videos had the first point of views I had ever seen on any facesitting site. The long video clips are great (each video clip I downloaded, I eventually bought the video tape for the whole film)

This site can only go from strength to strength, in my opinion. It already has thousands of pictures and hundreds of video clips, so give it a few more years and I think it will rival any of the older established sites (in America).

I think the membership costs about $30 for the first month, then $25 for the next, the $20 each month for the remainder of the time you stay a member.

editor
08-15-2004, 7:27 AM
Hey! THIEF!!...are you back again for stealing and dealing...

zed1014
08-15-2004, 4:27 PM
Hi Richy - thanks for that post, it was really useful for me. I've suffered a slow connection and it's soul destroying. You tie up your line, wait for days, then your windows machine crashes and you have to start all over again...

I've got a wedge burning a hole in my pocket, and I'd like to get something for my money this time!

Take it easy
:)

MrCrypt
08-15-2004, 11:28 PM
Yeah. I used to be a member of Fetish.com too. But I didn't have the money at the time (first job) to support the 90 they want to take at 1 time for 3 months. But when I was a member, I was very impressed, being that I've always loved their content (which to me has slightly diminished in the recent months). But they always were up and running at good speeds for downloads.

However, that was at least 3 years ago and I haven't joined since. I'm contemplating rejoining. They're pretty much the only people with good Francesca Le` footage. She's my favorite star. I wish more companies would pick her up.

MrCrypt
08-15-2004, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by gavrik
chairboy

Could You please rate my site too: bruteens.com



I was a member for a while. I like your site. I just wished you had more content on certain models. Seemed you focused a lot of the site more on specific models. You had a model up and comming that I never once saw any content for and I didn't see any method of canceling a membership. But I think that was the only issue I saw. But you have some very good quality pictures and long clips. I was actually surpised that the video quality was that good. But you should probably hire a camera man or get another cam setup for other angles.

Good job on your site.

Richy
08-16-2004, 1:05 AM
Mr Crypt.

Yeah, I'd forgotten about that 3 month thing - annoying, wasn't it!

I joined their site twice - 2 lots of three months with a 12 month gap between. When I was a member, I'd order about a dozen videos (getting 6 for free). Since the videos were $50 each, I suppose it made them a little cheaper (economy of scale)...

I would have had tons more of their vids if they did a straight forward bulk discount, but, like it says on their FAQ section "We don't offer discounts, don't even ask" and something about their site being good value for money" (I agree - but NOT if you connection speed is CRAP :) ). AS for Fransesca Le (you have VERY good taste) - I have seen other videos with her in them - mixed oil wrestling videos and apartment wrestling videos, if I remember right.

Her website...
http://www.missfrancescale.com/main.html

A FS film with her in it, from another site... (I think)
http://www.specialinterests.com/cfv-122.htm

I KNOW I've seen her in other mixed appartment wrestling type vids, but I can't remember where. Might have been Catfight.com?




zed1014

If you'd prefer to buy videos rather than download them - as I prefer - then I know of a few sites that are selling them cheaply.

Fetish.com (look at the bargain basement section)
http://www.fetish.com/newvideo.html

Roman videos (I think earlier videos are now selling half price)
http://www.romanvideo.net/smother_vid.htm

Swankyville.com (WHO comes up with these names! :) )
http://www.swankyville.com/home.php
Looks quite cheap - but I've never used them.

Catfight.com have an 'on sale' section
http://www.catfight.com/discount/disc9.htm

'SMVideo', which sells 2nd hand vids for about $20 (about £12).
On the SMvideos site search engine, try 'Facesitting' 'Face Sitting' 'Queening' 'Smothering' - you should find about 30 titles.
http://www.smvideo.com

I only ordered 1 video from them, but it didn't go well - they wrapped the video in tinfoil for shipping, to protect it?!? Which probably made it look like a VERY suspicious package! :) - so customs must have zpped it with enough xrays to make it glow in the dark - in other words, it was blank when I got it... But they might have changed this policy, since?

BUT I've found that any site that sells videos might be open to bargaining with you...

You just have to ask.