general question

[wilfrobson]

Out of interest, how many of you fellers are open about your foot fetish? Is it still (in the enlightened times of the internet and the subsequent redefinition of attitudes towards porn & sexuality) something we are ashamed of, or, do we openly discuss feet in the same manner that 'normal' folk discuss other more conventianal body parts - such as nice tits, nice arse etc.
Nothing heavy, I was just wondering...

[lildog]

Hi Wilfrobson!
Check some of the other threads, They'll sorta give you a good flavor to how this is handeled.
I myself use this forum as my opportunity to speak openly as this is a 'community'.
One I very much enjoy.
When I first started visiting Daddos forum I was thrilled to find people with like intrests, but I never felt shame.
In the same breath though, I dont look at a 'Sunshine girl' in the paper during lunch with the guys and say " I sure would like her to trample me in heels".
dunno.
Just my thunk.

[The Penguin]

Same as little dog I keep it quiet except with my wife because its a small town (no matter how big the city is) when it comes to something a little out of the acepted "norm" and I do need to keep my job and work within the field I'm in as it is quite small and we know every one in it or know people who know the rest of the group

[MistressValerie]

I'm in the same position as the Penguin, exactly. I live in a very small town and have to be careful. When I lived in Oakland I used to go to a gym in San Francisco which unofficially endorsed trample. Luckily I never used my real identity, because eventually there were legal problems with the gym and it had to close. It's a pity that things are still so intolerant -- and San Fran is considered one of the more "open-minded" cities in the US!

Good luck,

[foottime]

The closest I come to mentioning anything about feet or legs for that matter is if someone asks, "Which part of the female body are you attracted to?" I usually respond with, " I'm a leg man." I have been asked this question by men and women, but I don't specify the feet. Strange, huh...

Foottime

[soleboyjoe]

Contact me by email... sent U a private one on this forum. Have U seen Kaya lately?

Joe

[kevar]

I don't advertise my fantasy either, except to my gf. I guess it's because most people would think I was weird if I told them I would like to be walked all over.
My own thoughts on this are that most people are missing out on a truly wonderful and harmless fantasy. If trampling was to suddenely not apeal to me anymore I would like to have another fantasy to replace it!
Not that I don't think the most common sexual pleasures are not enough on their own but a personal fantasy is a nice thing to have.
Oh, and I also think the word 'fetish' is a bad word to attach to trampling. I don't have a foot 'fetish' at all but do like being walked over............
Have fun : )

[foottime]

You're right about the word "fetish", in that it has a negative representation in the "vanilla" world. I think most people equate that with a person that has no self control over their sexual desires. Unfortunately, the only time I seem to hear about people being attrated to feet is when someone was arrested for something. I'm not sure how the negative perception will change.

Foottime

[rustx008]

Mistress Valerie you said that you used to belong to a gym that unofficially endorsed trample? It sounds like there is an interesting story there waiting to be told, if not many.

Todd

[lildog]

Yeah, thats one thing I always get a kick out of in the vanilla world.
I dont know why, but Vanilla society seems to base whats "right and wrong" on fundamentals with roots in the 1930's.
I often go out with my wife or friends to partys hosted by doctors, lawyers, CEOS, VP's etc, and am amazed by what they call 'Kinky sex'.
Their Idea of Kink is (and maybe its me with the problem here) what I consider Vanilla. The number one kink I've heard is Oral sex. In my mind oral sex was kinky in the 40's. In the 2000's its just a simple part of a relationship, like putting money in the bank to pay the bills or going to a parent teacher interview.
Foot fetish, Trampling and Domination are not even an awareness in their circles, and most of the women I'm forced to listen to in my wifes circle really bother me with their constant bleating and whining about how rough they have it because their husbands, and I shit you not, want sex... simple vanilla sex... misionary position sex... twice a week.
Remember, these are women enjoying a lifestyle where there husbands bring in $80,000 plus.
These are women that do not work, and have not worked for 5 or more years and have done nothing but it on their ass at home getting fatter and fatter and complain about what an asshole their husbands are.
The same 'asshole' that works 18 hours a day, 7 days a week after 7 years in university eating macoroni and cheese to marry a woman that does nothing but insults him.
My thoughts are that most of the women I know would be better off spending a couple of minutes figuring out how to keep their husbands happy with their fetish before they end up in line at the welfare office.

[The Penguin]

so true lildog so true indeed
I'll the you what else too they have the court system set up to give the guy a good rodgering if he divorces her and you will hear about all of the sacrifices she made for him so he could get to where he is today

[MistressValerie]

This is one of the best discussions ever! I agree with all points that have been made.

First, the word "fetish" is a problem. Technically (according to DSM-4) it means a sexual attrraction to inanimate objects, but is used by "shock" journalists to denote any non-vanilla activity that they think is "kinky." I agree that "modern" medical and legal policies are based on 1930's ethics and lots of Freudian psycho-crap.

Politically, I'm a Libertarian -- even though I don't agree with them 100%, I do agree that the government should get out of the bedroom and that social workers and religious extremists should not be making laws and forcing their beliefs on the rest of us.

As to wives and their long-suffering husbands, I agree there too. I have met so many NICE guys at the various boards who are unhappily married to wives who do not appreciate them and do not want to please them at all. And I agree that divorce laws suck too -- the law tries to force people to stay in a bad marriage and be unhappy forever. Some people have a more-understanding spouse, and they are truly fortunate.

Lastly, as to my trample gym, I DO have a post about it somewhere, which I will be happy to add to the board here when I find it :)

I hope this great discussion keeps going! Love to all,

[lildog]

Thanks for the feedback Penguin and MistressValerie.
I sorta went on a rant there and try not to do that to often, and at the risk of boring/offending you, I'm gonna continue, this time on the subject of money.
Penguin, you brought up an excellent point about the courts. With no prenuptials, even if she's donated nothing more then greif to the relationship count on losing well more then half of what you possess, being left with incredible payments (even if SHE initiates the break up) and you dont have a hope in hell of getting custody of the kids or even to see them fairly. I do, but it cost me almost $30,000 for that alone. I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford it. Lots of my freinds are not, so cannot buy the right to see their kids... good system, huh?
As a rule, 'shared custody' is based on whats best for the kids, which in theory is good, but guess who decides whats best for the kids.
Yup.
Her.
Just had an argument on the phone with her? Guess what... the kids arn't feeling well... Been there, done that. I'm sure I'll be deluged by emails saying all women arn't like that. No, they are not. But most are.
Its an unfortunate fact but being born a male in todays world means nothing more then someone new to poor money into big buisness. It starts at birth and here in the western world anyway continues through adolescence into adult hood then into death. It costs almost $7,000 for the cheapest funerals. Almost $900 for a 6 block ride in a hearse alone. Someone I work with was telling me this.
You cant live in a small house, buy a bigger one.
You cant drive an old half ton, buy that new car... see how happy the young people sitting in it are in the commercial?
You dont have a credit card...? well, 'we'd really like to help you but...'
My 14 year old kid got a credit application about a year ago, and when I called 'Citybank financial' to straighten it out they wanted me to 'prove she was 14'!
Imagine that! some 'ho on the other end of the phone beleived she had a right to shove a credit ap down my kids throat, and argued with me, her dad, about it.
Have you looked at your bank account lately? What in the hell is a "Aministrative service fee"?
they already charge me an "administrative fee" so it cant be that... When I called Tuesday to ask about it, no one at TD knew!
Go figure, they can take it out (It's only $9, but its the point) at the blink of an eye but wont return it!
If you have a 'Go phone' watch out.
its a phone that has internet access but when you go to what they call a 'go page' your not charged.
but if you link off that 'go page they nail you 2 cents a download.
for example, you can go to the top storys page at a newspaper, but if you click to read it, bam! 2 cents please. On this bill, that translated to an extra $80.
they dont tell you this though before you sign the 2 year contract, so when I called to bitch, the operator gleefully explained it really didnt matter. I was locked in for 2 years.
Suck it up sunshine. Kerching.
No one cooks anymore, they all buy conveinience food, and as a result obesity is skyrocketing.
Daycares take kids at 3 months. Think of that.
fuels at 75 cents a litre. Thats over $3 a gallon.
Four days before a long weekend the price go's down, you fuel up cause the price is 'good', then right when you need fuel again during the long weekend the fuel is through the roof. Gas companys have said they are regulated and thats just chance. Yeah, right.
All of this and I noticed this year People wearing poppies last years poppies with green centres (the centres of the poppies are black this year where I live) so these cheap bastards wont drop a buck for a veteran, but the want people to see they 'respect' them. Tell one whos on the way to the food bank, as a surprising amount of our forces (Canadian) are doing. But you sure look good in your Gucci shoes, Armani jacket and last years poppie stuck to you.
My point being is that if I was trampled as much as my rights are, I would be one happy dude.




:confused: :cry: :mad: :2guns: :machine: :xmad: :(

[foottime]

Hey lildog,

I glad someone else notices these things, but I like the last line the best. :D

"if I was trampled as much as my rights are, I would be one happy dude."

Foottime

[The Penguin]

We are sorta off the topic a little but I am also Divorced and my "new Wife' is much better but I did have to spell it out to her about what I needed in "the bed room " and she's ok with it (she is also divorced)

30k to see your kids LIldog thats not too bad ! I have a friend that has spent 75k so far and he's not done yet thanks to legal aid and lawyers that make money out of prolonging the battle his ex is so nasty she called the cops on fathers day and claimed that he beat her(false claim) so they would arrest him and keep him in jail over the weekend so he wouldn't be able to see his 3yr old boy and also tells him that daddy hates the boy


I have another friend that his marrige is on the rocks (they are going to counceling ) but i think it will prolong the inevitable (his wife is so selfish and mean too

I told him not to split up untill the maternaty leave runs out and she is back at work full time otherwise he's going to get SCREWED royally

I toldmy wife (girlfriend at the time) straight up if she wasn't prepared to meet me at least half way then we would split up cause Life is too short to live in misery and you only get one kick at the Cat so to speak and I would move on if I did not get my needs met (I already meet her needs) It helps if you can comunincate 100% without tempers flaring I was cold calm and left nothing unsaid when I had it out with her We now have a mutually satisfiying relationship but not without work on both sides

we have a child and a second on the way

One last thing men have two choices in life
1 work
2 go to jail

women have many! way too many!!
:machine: :2guns::p :p

[castagnus]

Good topic. Do any of you ever listen to the G.Gordon Liddy talk radio program (Radio Free Washington). Judging from his salacious and complementary comments about ladies wearing open sandals and his approving opinions about mild male masochism, I wouldn't be surprised if the "G-man" is one of us. G. Gordon is consistently chivalrous and courteous to ladies and we would do well to emulate him in that respect even if some of us do not always agree with his political views.

I might screw up enough courage one day to ask him on the air if he likes women's feet and am sure he would respond openly and honestly.

Now as for Lildog and Penguin. You no doubt have had a rough time but think of all the blessings you have living in that wonderful country named Canada. I lived in Canada from the late 40's after my family lost everything in WW2. But we were fortunate - we were alive and had our health. Through hard work and a free economic system we were able to rebuild our lives and within a decade were prosoperous again.

Although I now live in another great nation, the USA, I visit Canada frequently and although I agree with you that the divorce laws are abused there,as they are here, by attorneys highly skilled in fomenting hatred between two people who at one time must have loved each other deeply, we have only ourserlves to blame for letting our bruised egos cause us incredible emotional and financial harm.

To go back to the Good G. Gordon - I urge you to get his autobiography "Will". It shows you how he was badly screwed by the establishment and jailed for 7 years for refusing to snitch on others. He was financially ruined but came out of prison a proud and happy man after he made life unbearable for the prison guards and prison wardens, - it is worthwhile reading his comments about self pity which he calls one of the most destructive and useless emotions. Lildog & Penguin, please look at the bright side of things.

Dwelling on the past and reflecting on the many injustices that have been inflicted on one really really does no good. I got married very late in life to a wonderful young Canadian woman who enjoys many aspects of exciting sex including being highly aroused when she tramples me. From my experience with my ex girl friends, I can assure you that most women are turned on by having their feet attended too, and some even reciprocrate by returning the favor. But one has to be open and honest about these likes early in the relationship to avoid "surprising" one's loved one.

My wife and I have shared our likes with close friends and we have never had any neative feedback.

Yours for "loving trample"

Nobzil

[castagnus]

Good topic. Do any of you ever listen to the G.Gordon Liddy talk radio program (Radio Free Washington). Judging from his salacious and complementary comments about ladies wearing open sandals and his approving opinions about mild male masochism, I wouldn't be surprised if the "G-man" is one of us. G. Gordon is consistently chivalrous and courteous to ladies and we would do well to emulate him in that respect even if some of us do not always agree with his political views.

I might screw up enough courage one day to ask him on the air if he likes women's feet and am sure he would respond openly and honestly.

Now as for Lildog and Penguin. You no doubt have had a rough time but think of all the blessings you have living in that wonderful country named Canada. I lived in Canada from the late 40's after my family lost everything in WW2. But we were fortunate - we were alive and had our health. Through hard work and a free economic system we were able to rebuild our lives and within a decade were prosoperous again.

Although I now live in another great nation, the USA, I visit Canada frequently and although I agree with you that the divorce laws are abused there,as they are here, by attorneys highly skilled in fomenting hatred between two people who at one time must have loved each other deeply, we have only ourserlves to blame for letting our bruised egos cause us incredible emotional and financial harm.

To go back to the Good G. Gordon - I urge you to get his autobiography "Will". It shows you how he was badly screwed by the establishment and jailed for 7 years for refusing to snitch on others. He was financially ruined but came out of prison a proud and happy man after he made life unbearable for the prison guards and prison wardens, - it is worthwhile reading his comments about self pity which he calls one of the most destructive and useless emotions. Lildog & Penguin, please look at the bright side of things.

Dwelling on the past and reflecting on the many injustices that have been inflicted on one really really does no good. I got married very late in life to a wonderful young Canadian woman who enjoys many aspects of exciting sex including being highly aroused when she tramples me. From my experience with my ex girl friends, I can assure you that most women are turned on by having their feet attended too, and some even reciprocrate by returning the favor. But one has to be open and honest about these likes early in the relationship to avoid "surprising" one's loved one.

My wife and I have shared our likes with close friends and we have never had any neative feedback.

Yours for "loving trample"

Nobzil

[rene597]

I agree with you Nobzil, When you tell your girlfriend about your "things" in an early stage then you'll probably have a better chance of understanding, i think.
But on the other hand my guess is that there are few people who got to it in a later stage of a relationship.

But in my opinion it all comes to whether a person is, or is not openminded for some things.
If you just take a look at Steve from downunder, he is a master in having woman step all over him, but i'm sure he'll gets no for an answer now and then. But the point is there ARE a lot of them who are willing to try......................

So just be honest and open, that's the main thing.

René

[lildog]

Yeah.
It blows.
But enough from me...
:fart:

[gusset]

Well said penguin and lildog, I too am divorced and paying through the nose to be able to see my daughter. Woman I was married to sat on her fat ass almost from the day we were married. Even after we had left a bar that we run (well I run and she just drank) and had loads of debts. I worked my ass off tons of overtime to clear the debts which took about 7 years in the end.
But we had been pretty open in our relationship about what we liked, not so much trample but there was some foot worship. After we were married that sort of went out of the window along with most other aspects of sex, so all I become was a meal ticket, yes and still am thanks to the brilliantly fantastic CSA (child support agency). I don't earn as much as some of you, only £25k thats about $37.5k i think, but she now gets about $375 a month of that, and that makes it difficult to find the money to see my daughter and take her out etc.
Now I'm an absolute pervert as far as she is concerned, although she had come out with that during the last few years of our marriage. Funny thing though, I wasn't a pervert before we were married and I was on my knees before her licking her shoes and feet whilst she sat back and had orgasms without being even touched - strange world isn't it.
Its not all doom and gloom, have been in my current relationship with Miss H for 5 years now, and have been open from the start. We're just about to have our first child (february) and everything is absolutely wonderful. Being open with Miss H has been really good, whereas with my ex she had just used it to help her get a mealticket.

[modlemaker]

i have had a trample fetish since i can remember 5 or 6 years old. all i know is that i got stepped on playfully and i liked it and from then on wanted more. i had a teenage babysitter who would let me stay up later if i would lay down on my back whenever she wanted to go to the kitchen and would jiggle her foot on my stomach. her sister came by to see her one time and asked if she could step on me she was younger and lighter and started walking back and forth with one foot stepping on my stomach. oh that felt so good. she was wearing a skirt and i could see up it and from then on i had a trample fetish . she would see me outside and say come over here and we would go behind a fence where she would ask if she could step on me again. yes i said this went on for a long time and a few times she would bring her girlfriends and 5 of them stepped all over me and one made me smell her feet after taking off her tennis shoes. that is how my fetish began but on tv, when they portray a foot fetish it's always some freaky guy who noone can stand and in peoples mind that is what they see when they hear the word foot fetish. OH and mistress valerie, oakland huh ? i lived in hayward ! too bad i wasn't laying around in your path sometime .
bert

[barracuda426]

Hey folks, I actually told a girl who I considered my "friend" that I liked to be walked on. She didn't receive it well to put it mildly. Actually she seemed really uncomfortable around me after that. Not to scare anybody from telling someone, but it always seems to go better if you get them to do something first and then judge their reaction. I ended up telling another girl later on and she was ok with it, but wasn't really interested in doing anything. Rejection is unfortunately part of life. It's nothing personally against you(although it sure as hell seems that way), it's just people's lack of understanding that there's more to their world than they had originally bargained for. Fortunately I've never been married, but exactly what everyone was talking about(being unhappy due to nonfulfillment of what makes me happy) is what has kept me from it. If someone doesn't understand and freaks out.. just keep on keeping on. There's awesome ladies like MistressValerie, PrincessCali and VinalQueen(just off the top of my head) that we're fortunate enough to have, but there are many others out there who have no idea that we like the same things they do. I've openly asked a lot of ladies to walk on me(very few on the front) and step on my hand, but I probably would never tell them I sexually liked it unless I was sure they reciprocated the feeling. A while back I met a girl on www.matchmaker.com (which is now a pay site) We ended up being good friends and started talking on the phone. One day she just up and admits to deriving pleasure from causing someone pain. I was shocked but I managed to tell her my desires too. Lol, and as all dramas go I've since lost contact with her(she lived 300 mi away and was extremely busy with college).

I guess in short my openness entirely depends on how my relationship is with the person and how they could affect my life knowing about what I like. If it would have any affect at all. I think my closest friends know, but it's just not something that's discussed.


'cuda