More pics of Claire in action

[al-uk]

A couple of weeks ago I tried to post some pics of Claire, but the image loading software had a problem, so I posted some of them to a geocities page. anyway now that things are up and working again I thought I post them again... + some more...

She is a brilliant facesitter as well as being drop-dead gorgeous and having a really nice personality. She is getting really interested in the scene... as you can see in the last pics (taken yesterday) she is studying Stanton's "A Very Private Domination" to get more insight into the mind of a faceseat --- next week we'll try and roleplay it through from start to finish...

[smelly]

Boah - great pics with perfect facesitting, Al ! :D

Clair is a hot lady.

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[rob]

Awesome, sometimes I hate you Al ;-)

[cheeky]

.i agree rob......................AL.....your one jammy git........she looks lovely..i really will have to get my arse up the M6

[dutch]

Very exciting pics Al. Must be a great experience to be under Claire. Thanks for posting the pics. :)

[opinion sniffer]

She's beautiful:lildog:

[dirtyslave]

you are very lucky man...

[al-uk]

Hi Folks,

Glad you appreciated them...here are a few more...

BTW If you do pop in to see her, please tell her I sent you...

[opinion sniffer]

I wouldn't be able to solicit prostitution. I'd feel so guilty the whole time. These girls are so beautiful it breaks my heart sometimes. Their "profession" must be very very difficult.

I have so much respect for beautiful women. It must be so hard for these girls. Having sex everyday with who knows who.

I wonder how they keep themselves healthy from STD's. I know they use condoms but they also give blowjobs and ........... open mouth kissing?

As much as I respect the porn industry (where everyone is equal) I feel the opposite about prostitution.

I feel so bad and guilty for the girls because they're so hot and it must be quite difficult for them.
I hope at least they get paid a lot. But I doubt that too.

P.S. This opinion of mine doesn't refer to facesitting sessions. I was reffering to sex, sex workers and that whole aspect of things.
This is why most Mistresses who offer dom fetish sessions state clearly on their websites that they offer absolutely "no sex". They are Mistresses not prostitutes.

[noface]

She looks absolutely awesome and that facesitting looks HOT! That fourth picture is great!!!

[yosi]

FANTASTIC pics
thank you for sharing with us :cool:

enjoy life
yosi

[E.Rotique]

Very nice Alan!
By the way, is that Neighbours she's watching on the TV in the first few pics?:cool:

[al-uk]

Hi E-rotique,
I dont think it was neighbors, but then again I couldnt see it most of the time and my mind was also on other things!

[M-UK]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by opinion sniffer
[B]I wouldn't be able to solicit prostitution. I'd feel so guilty the whole time. These girls are so beautiful it breaks my heart sometimes. Their "profession" must be very very difficult.


It's true that it's not the easiest of jobs in a lot of ways, but Sandy's ( the parlour Claire works in ) has a massive queue of girls wanting to work there, it's about the "softest" end of the business there is.



I have so much respect for beautiful women. It must be so hard for these girls. Having sex everyday with who knows who.

Again, it's not easy, but they are *very* well paid to provide an illusion. As it happens I was in this week, chatting with Claire in the lounge about fetish models and she rushed off to show me some pictures Al had brought in for her to look at. She had nothing but nice things to say about him, it's true that it's a job to these ladies but don't assume they never have a fun day at work. Or, that just because they wouldn't pick clients as their boyfriends that they hate them all.

I wonder how they keep themselves healthy from STD's. I know they use condoms but they also give blowjobs and ........... open mouth kissing?

These girls are the most clued up you can find about sexual health of *anybody*. Far more so than the porn industry, not least because they're not dumb enough to provide bareback just because somebody claims to have a valid ticket. Two further points. I work in that area of the health industry, and Manchester has a *major* problem with STDs, but *none* of it is centred around or sourced to the parlours. Sandy's is an "open" parlour, police and the sexual health teams ( like MASH ) are welcome any time. And do you watch porn with your eyes shut if you think it's a bastion of safe sex?


As much as I respect the porn industry (where everyone is equal) I feel the opposite about prostitution.

You are joking aren't you ? Porn and everyone equal ? There's a "responsible" end of the market, and an "exploitative" end. If you look at the Gonzo end of the UK market, then I can assure you that a girl at one of the good Manchester parlours earns multiples in a day off what an actress gets paid for a shoot, and doesn't blow her anonymity forever into the bargain.

I feel so bad and guilty for the girls because they're so hot and it must be quite difficult for them.
I hope at least they get paid a lot. But I doubt that too.

Oh, they do get paid a lot. Sandy's charge £100 an hour, the majority of which is the girl's, not counting chargeable extras, you do the math.

P.S. This opinion of mine doesn't refer to facesitting sessions. I was reffering to sex, sex workers and that whole aspect of things.
This is why most Mistresses who offer dom fetish sessions state clearly on their websites that they offer absolutely "no sex". They are Mistresses not prostitutes.

Yes, a common claim, but as far as UK law goes... bullshit. They provide sexual services for money, two Mistresses sharing premises is a brothel in the eyes of the law, and have been busted as such. Go to UK-mistresses and read the relevant threads if you don't believe me; that site will not allow discussion of two-mistress sessions for precisely that reason. that's a disclaimer to get around the soliciting laws, since prostitution as such is not illegal in the UK. I've seen that snobbery re "tarts" from "Mistresses" and it always make me laugh, as it happens I respect both, but they are both prostitutes.

[pantyman]

Excellent pics Al :thumbsup:

nice to see Claire swotting up on new positions :D

[buttman]

Superb pics al!! How long is your usual session and what does Clare charge?

[noface]

Just as a little sidebar, does opinion snif say if Jenna Jameson was sitting on his face he wouldn't be great with that;-)
I just think after seeing everything on Clair, I'd love to be-a-smotherin'!

[al-uk]

Hi buttman,
Charge is £50 for ~30mins. Somehow it seems much longer when you are under her butt!

Thanks M-UK

- your reply to O-S covers the points I was going to make. I'm sure most of the girls at the better clubs in Manchester are not coerced into the job... the money is very good and the hours are relatively short. I usually get to know the girls quite well and most seem to enjoy the job most of the time-- although there is always the odd bad client. I'm sure there are places around where some (particularly foreign) girls are forced into it, and I'd be 100% in favour of closing such places down.

M-UK is also right about Sandy's girls being very clued up on safe sex and in anycase the risks of getting STDs from facesitting, even nude, are relatively small.

[opinion sniffer]

Well!!!!!
Obviously my opinion created some controvercy here. I wasn't trying to upset anybody. I apologise if I did. Although I hope I didn't.

I was having a bit of a rough day when I wrote my other post ..... however I meat what I wrote. I browsed through the Sandy's website and it is a very well done website. However I got a little "put off" by reading some of those so called testimonials. Some clients (some, that is) didn't respect the girls very much in what they wrote. Some clients wrote as if the girls were just sex toys for them, as if the girls were nothing but rubber dolls to them. Sex slaves basically.

These girls need to be respected for even offering such a job. Putting themselves in a tough position like this. But bad clients do turn up I'm sure.

I must say that I was a bit relieved when I saw the girl's schedule. Each works like two or three days a week. In my own sillyness I thought they worked every day of the week and had sex with at least 10 men a day.

However I'm sure all the girls have families and they do put themselves at a certain risk. I doubt they have boyfriends because no boyfriend would let the girl he loves have this proffession.

England has some really gorgeous women and these girls are no exception.

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Anyway. When I said everyne in porn is equal I meant the fact that both the girls and guys get paid to do "a job" in front of the camera.
When I said pornstars make more than callgirls I meant porn"stars" not just any girl in porn.
M-UK was mentioning gonzo movies. I think most of those are crap where people get exploited. Just my opinion.
When I said what I said I was reffering to bigger budget porn.
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Anyway. Back to the Sandy's topic. The hardest thing for this girls is to suck cock without a condom. I think that's risky. Sure the sex involves a condom, but the blowjob is without one.
I have no doubt that these girls are sex experts, but still, the clients don't get tested for anything.
I just read in some client testimonies that some girls had "sores" in their mouths.
We know how that happened.
They are beautiful lovely girls though and I hope they all plan to do something else with their lifes after they are done with this proffession.

Al-UK your pics are cool and Claire is very beautiful.

[al-uk]

No need to apologise O-S. I certainly respect your opinion and your concern for the girls health & welfare. I must admit I too find some of the P-net reports fairly distasteful as well as being innacurate in many cases. I think the important thing is to respect the girls feelings at all times.

[M-UK]

Originally posted by opinion sniffer
Well!!!!!
Obviously my opinion created some controvercy here. I wasn't trying to upset anybody. I apologise if I did. Although I hope I didn't.

Well, I apologise right back if'n you thought I was upset by the tone of my reply. All it was was robust debate in my mind, and meant to be friendly, nothing personal intended.

I was having a bit of a rough day when I wrote my other post ..... however I meat what I wrote. I browsed through the Sandy's website and it is a very well done website. However I got a little "put off" by reading some of those so called testimonials.

Do you mean the Punternet Field Reports ( which are a seperate site to Sandy's itself, they're merely linked in ) ? I do agree that some aren't that respectful, on the other hand you'll have to take my word for it but PN FRs have their own idiom. Further it's a British idiom, what strikes you as disrespectful may often not be so. FWIW, many of the girls have a good giggle over them.

Some clients (some, that is) didn't respect the girls very much in what they wrote. Some clients wrote as if the girls were just sex toys for them, as if the girls were nothing but rubber dolls to them. Sex slaves basically.


Well, hang on, clients by and large pay for a fantasy, and the PN FRs ( which bring in a lot of business ) rate the girls on how well they pull that off. many customers for instance want a "porn film" fantasy, and are polite about asking for same. Now, your average porn film ain't flowers and roses, polite before, sex toy inbetween, and polite after doesn't IMO amount to disrespect. Ask most of the girls across the UK who work either in parlours, escort agencies or as independents ( the areas Punternet or C69 cover ), and they'll tell you the FRs are a good thing. Consumer reviews are common in "legitimate" business, and by going ahead with them it does help legitimise the business.

These girls need to be respected for even offering such a job. Putting themselves in a tough position like this. But bad clients do turn up I'm sure.

Indeed they do, a good parlour, like Sandy's, will tell the girls who work there ( and I've been there when a girl was told exactly this ), that they don't have to see *any* customer who's rude, smelly, scary etc. In fact, the girls are self-employed and can turn down a customer for any reason. While there are poor parlours in Manchester, the police have a fairly common sense attitude which helps. More or less they leave them alone, unless customers are rolled, illegal immigrants/underage girls on the roster, drugs on the premises or other criminal activity.

I must say that I was a bit relieved when I saw the girl's schedule. Each works like two or three days a week. In my own sillyness I thought they worked every day of the week and had sex with at least 10 men a day.


Bear in mind also, that not all guys want the whole enchilada as it were.

However I'm sure all the girls have families and they do put themselves at a certain risk. I doubt they have boyfriends because no boyfriend would let the girl he loves have this proffession.

Most of them do have boyfriends and/or husbands. Relationships are a problem, but I think you could make the same point re porn.

England has some really gorgeous women and these girls are no exception.

Hum, would it surprise you that opinion on this board re the girls at Sandys based on Al's photo posts has made it's way back to the ladies ? They're not very happy.... why haven't all these American guys wanting to be sat on turned up ? Honestly, they'd be happy to.

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Anyway. When I said everyne in porn is equal I meant the fact that both the girls and guys get paid to do "a job" in front of the camera.


Well, the girls in porn get paid a lot more than the guys.

When I said pornstars make more than callgirls I meant porn"stars" not just any girl in porn.

Hmm, well, I'd suggest there are very few porn stars who make the really big bucks for more than a very short time. A "top-class" call girl in Europe will probably make several hundred K a year, and see less customers than a porn star does other actors, unless they go into business themselves I suspect not many porn stars make that.

M-UK was mentioning gonzo movies. I think most of those are crap where people get exploited. Just my opinion.
When I said what I said I was reffering to bigger budget porn.

Fair point, but I suspect a large proportion of porn is at the lower end when it comes to earnings by the performers. And don't underestimate the value of the relative anonymity of the call-girl versus the porn star.
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Anyway. Back to the Sandy's topic. The hardest thing for this girls is to suck cock without a condom. I think that's risky.

Now there I agree with you. There are precautions that can be taken, but, funnily enough, the *most* popular girl at Sandy's did nothing without a condom.

Sure the sex involves a condom, but the blowjob is without one.
I have no doubt that these girls are sex experts, but still, the clients don't get tested for anything.
I just read in some client testimonies that some girls had "sores" in their mouths.
We know how that happened.

I think you'll find, if you look again, that having a "sore", or "loose filling", is the most commonly used reason for a girl *not* providing oral without a condom. On the one hand, it's a polite way of declining oral. Also, current advice is that "bareback" oral is safe (with regards to HIV) providing you have neither a cut or mouth ulcer. Mouth ulcers occur all the time in otherwise healthy people and are not, per se, caused by STDs. But not providing OWO is wise if you have one. The most commonly transmitted STD by oral is herpes, a girl with a cold sore is not going to work 'till it goes.

They are beautiful lovely girls though and I hope they all plan to do something else with their lifes after they are done with this proffession.


Some do invest wisely. Luck to them.

Al-UK your pics are cool and Claire is very beautiful.

Nice girl too.

[M-UK]

appears to have come up in bold. Sorry, didn't mean to shout

[opinion sniffer]

Alright. Cool ..... cool this is becoming quite a good thread.

Alright M-UK

1 Porn girls make more money than porn guys (lads as you say in England)

Yes this is true. I knew that. I think it's fair.
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2 Some call girls have husbands or boyfriends.

Yes I thought in some cases that might be true. I however find that to be very very sad for the obvious reason. If the girl is single then so be it. But what kind of husband or boyfiend would not be extremely bothered by his girlfriend working as a call girl?
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3 Girls use the "mouth sore" excuse when they don't want to give oral to just anybody.

Good for them. I hadn't thought of that. That's very smart.
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It is true that nobody is forcing these girls to do this. They just choose to do this for some reason or another. So it's up to them really.

I'm a very open minded kind of guy and I've had many one night stands since highschool. I've never paid a girl for any services though. I'd feel a little guilty doing so. I'm not dissing anybody at all. That's just how I feel in my heart right now.

[noface]

Sorry if I got you going there opinion snif...it was meant as a little chuckle.
Main point...everyone has to do what they feel comfortable with. I'm sure the girls take every precaution they feel necessary and are absolutely wonderful. This Claire girl looks awesome and I guess looking it over, I think she'd be totally wonderful to spend a session with!
I think Al made a a great point and it shows you that he's the kinda' guy I'd love to share a few pints with at the pub:) I ALWAYS try to respect the feelings of the girl first. I have found pretty much every girl I've wrestled to be a girl that is more genuine and upfront than your average girl you'd meet at a nightclub, etc. They 98% of the time are always extremely nice, sexy, and a lot of fun both in session, and outside. I've several times retained contact with them personally as friends.

[opinion sniffer]

No.
Nothing was bad about this thread at all.
I agree with everything you said noface.

Noface are you British or American? Just curious. All your dreams seem to have Belle in them. Rightfully so. That woman's hot.

P.S. I don't think Jenna Jameson facesits. That woman's so untouchable. In the adult world she's like the queen or something. :D I saw a guy lick her ass once though. That was hot.

[al-uk]

hi M-UK,
You wrote

Hum, would it surprise you that opinion on this board re the girls at Sandys based on Al's photo posts has made it's way back to the ladies ? They're not very happy.... why haven't all these American guys wanting to be sat on turned up ? Honestly, they'd be happy to.

If the girls at Sandys are upset re the post I'd be happy to remove the pics forthwith. I discussed it with Claire before posting and she was happy about it (i'll check with her again this week). The idea was to get more facesit enthusiasts from NW UK to pop in and visit her, its not really aimed at the US guys. (I believe my earlier post got her at least one new seat). In fact it only seems to have bothered O-S.

Just wondering-- are you Merve?

[M-UK]

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If the girls at Sandys are upset re the post I'd be happy to remove the pics forthwith. I discussed it with Claire before posting and she was happy about it (i'll check with her again this week).

No, no, I was just having a laugh. Had mentioned. some while ago, while chatting with a couple of the girls, that some of these piccys were on a basically US forum and the comment was made in humour. AFAIK, they're not bothered.

The idea was to get more facesit enthusiasts from NW UK to pop in and visit her, its not really aimed at the US guys. (I believe my earlier post got her at least one new seat). In fact it only seems to have bothered O-S.

Just wondering-- are you Merve?


Mois ? A slaphead pervert like Merve ? No such of a thing. Have no idea what Sandy et al think re the pictures appearing here, but I'd guess they'd stop it if they were bothered. If you want to know "who" I am, I'll send you a pvt on the LBB forum.

[al-uk]

Hi M,
Thats a relief, I know some of the girls at sandy's are very edgy about pics as its very important to many of them to preserve anonimity. Last year some guy took some full face pics of Faye in a compromising pose and then put them in a magazine which circulates locally.

Although this is a US forum, there is quite a strong UK group on it... maybe we should try setting up a specific UK facesit forum again. I did this a few years back, but it never really got going.

Sorry I thought you might be Merv... you seemed very clued up on Sandys... you must spend more time there than I do!

yes send me a message on LBB-- username is al-uk --- perhaps we should start a facesitting thread on LBB?

I still owe you at least a couple of pints for helping me find Dominique...

[rob]

Al or M-UK, can I ask what LBB is?

[jagd]

Great pics Al!
But my favourite is "April" . Do you have more pics of her?
Thanks again!!!

[opinion sniffer]

Hey AL
I'm no longer bothered by any of this

Tell me something. Is it true that the girls don't go by their real names?

I noticed that besides Claire there is another girl named Stephanie who does facesitting.
Stephanie seemms to be one of the best. Very beautiful brunette although I can't see her face.

[al-uk]

Rob,

I'll email you....

Jagd

.. I think april has moved from salon 24....

O-S
....Yes

[jagd]

Hi Al,

Where has April gone to?

thx

[al-uk]

Hi Jagd,
I'm not really sure if she has left, but I rang up salon 24 a few times over the past month and she is not around on her normal thursday slot... anyway I'll try & find out...its always a shame to lose touch with an enthusiast like april

The trouble is there are so many facesitters in manchester its difficult to keep under them all. for example I just made another excellent discover... daniella at www.manchestermistress.co.uk she is brilliant


http://www.geohost.net/adm/manchester/images/daniella1.jpg http://www.geohost.net/adm/manchester/images/daniella.jpg

[innocentianmark]

Hi Al,

Where has Eve from Salon 24 gone?

[jagd]

Hi Al,
Thanks for the info. I think April was working on sundays also. Please let me know.
Thanks

[innocentianmark]

Hi

Clair and Stephanie at Sandys have both added facesitting as one of their specialities. Lets hope it catches on. I think we can thank al for this.

[al-uk]

I'm really pleased to see that... I think its cdefinately catching on in the manchester area... anyway its important that you guys put forward your faces for Claire & Stephanie to sit on...

[Apophis]

jeez man. i stupidly didn't think about whether there'd be anyone in Manchester after a seat-cushion./