Financial Dominantion in the Eyes of a Fetishist

[DominaKiara]

There have been plenty of discussions about financial servitude, financial domination, money slavery, wallet raping, etc. your Mistress is going to shed some light on the subject and let you in on how it works from the view of a financial fetishist.

I consider a financial Dom/me someone who actually gets sexually aroused by the idea of the sub in question tributing. I must say that this is Me. It took a while to get used to this! Imagine if you will in a capitalistic society finding yourself physically and mentally aroused by the fact that someone is giving you their hard earned money and expecting/receiving nothing in return. I must admit, I felt DIRTY - like there was something wrong with Me.

And I ask some of the subs here - is that any different than how you yourself felt when you first started to explore your kinky and submissive side? Were you not awkward and unsure and even scared or disgusted by your thoughts and desires?

Now that I’ve come to terms with My desires and allowed them to be incorporated into My Mistress lifestyle, I see financial Domination as the ultimate sacrifice. Many of My fetishes require My slaves and submissives to sacrifice their body. Some even require the sacrifice of their minds. But scars heal, memories fade. However, debt and financial issues are always oh so close at hand. To know that My financial slaves make that sacrifice to make Me happy sends shivers down My spine. To see My slaves putting their Mistress before themselves is always a thrill, and it’s the way it should be!

Money will always be power in this capitalistic society. Domme/sub relationships will always be about a power exchange. My subs relinquish their power to Me, their Dominant Mistress, and we both get enjoyment out of it. So it is a natural desire to want to tribute a Mistress, to exchange the symbol of power from yourself to your Goddess. Just as it is a natural desire for Me as the Financial Mistress to crave this servitude.

While many who claim to be financially dominant (often referred to as ‘Insta dommes’) say that there is nothing that the slaves gets in return from financial domination, this is false. As in any other type of fetish Dom/sub relationship, I give My time, My control, My Dominance, My sincerity, and I allow My financial slaves just a glimpse into My world. For that I, and My financial slaves, feel that there is no possible way that they could pay Me back. No matter how many gifts or tributes they send, no matter how many jobs they get, they could never make a dent in their debt to their Goddess.

My financial slaves love to give Me tribute. I have several serving Me right now, and they literally beg Me to allow them to tribute. They seem just as awkward as I did 4 years ago. They ask ‘is it ok if I tribute you?’ as if they would offend Me. I have to explain to them that it is a fetish for Me as well, and we both get off on it together.

The more experienced ones tell Me why they tribute. First of all, they know that I am deserving as their Mistress. They want Me to live the life of the Goddess that I am. They know that the purpose of a slave, financial or otherwise, is to make the life of their Mistress easier and more enjoyable. Even though I do not NEED the tributes, gifts, money, etc, they know that it makes Me happy, and that is the goal of My financial slaves. They want just for a moment for the smile on My face to be because of something that they did correctly.

I do hope that this puts it a bit more into perspective for those here who don’t quite understand what’s going on in a financial D/s relationship.

[sinbad]

Ummm....I think it helps a little. But I still can't bring myself to give my hard earned money to someone that literally gives two shits about me, and I'd probably never meet in real life. I understand where the turn on is though. I had an x- girlfriend that if she sent me her phone bill every month, I'd pay with no questions asked, and it would turn me on just writing out the check. But I know her, and I know at least at one point she cared for me. Luckily she doesn't know this so I'm safe. :) But hey, I'm not knocking it. For some it's a major turn on. There is definitely a market for it, and I'm glad to hear that it turns you on. It would definately make it easier knowing that.

[DominaKiara]

I didn't post this to convert people - if you're not a financial fetishist, that probably won't ever happen. And I do offer real time sessions for those in the Detroit area, but on a whole, you're right, most of My pets won't ever get the chance to see Me in real life. This was mostly just My musings. I've been thinking about this since I started to accept it as a fetish I have, and I see a lot of people who either do not see it as a fetish at all, or who bash it (which I know you're not doing). Just thought I'd share with a more intelligent fetish community ;3

[sinbad]

I"m so glad I didn't offend you. I didn't wish to do that at all, and I know your not trying to convert me or anyone else. Sorry for butting in on the thread because I'm far from intelligent. ;) Like stated above, I'm not knocking it, I was a member of dommesandsubs when it was up, and that site was mostly all financial doms. I"ve met some really good people on there, but also met some very greedy (mostly young) girls who would not say two words to me without $50.00. Which completely turns me off. Hope this doesn't sound like I'm bashing it, just sharing my thoughts, if I'm open to....I mean some guys must be into it, because if someone tries it with me, then it must have worked before. So alas the market. I don't know, If I cared for someone, and thought it was recipricol I'd give my life to that person and everything in it. But, it would be very difficult for me to do it through just a computer.
sinbad

[max2divor]

Interesting thread so far. When we started DieForHer.com, we had a policy of not covering financial-only, online-only femdoms.... more or less along the lines of Sinbad's points above (always something sensible from Sinbad.)

We changed that when we did a profile on Valentine DeVille, who had some interesting things to say about the subject, I thought:

http://dieforher.com/valentinedeville/valentine01.html

Since then, we've had a lot more pieces and output from the like.

Indeed, in the fetish industry and I would say especially the video sector, a lot of the most interesting and creative content is coming from the Clips4Sale, YooGirls, and FetishCOD crowd (yes, even FetishCOD, despite my periodically offending the FetishCOD nazis and their brownshirts here at Destiny Forum.) E.g., Melissa Penteuk, Ceara Lynch, Mistress Daria, Mistress Vixen of Cruella, &tc. (Full disclosure: Some of these I've worked with; some not.)

Still at the end of the day, I think the best work -- artistically, and that which appeals the most to me -- comes from those who share the financial/online/armslength domination fetish -- and do real time as well. Domme Dietrich Dane, Stella Van Gent, Mistress T, Bijou Steal, usw.

None of which, I trust, offends any of the reasonable commentators above, or those who are viewing this thread but not tossing in their 2 cents. I can defend it as a matter of aesthetics and human relationships -- but I'm not putting it out in a spirit of "this aesthetic is right, yours is wrong," &tc.

Nobody here but us perverts --

Cheers, and warm regards,
Max
http://DieForHer.com

[DominaKiara]

Because of the nature of the fetish, there will always be girls who want to pretend just to cash in. I LOVE Dommesandsubs.com and I can't wait until they're back up and running, but anywhere that there are a large collection of Dommes like that, there will be just as many if not more impersonators. And no worries about offending Me - they bug the piss out of Me too! I've had more than a few of My financial pets come to Me and say things like you said, that they demand tribute and then disappear or turn out to be just a 'fuck you pay me' bitch who sounds like a broken record.

I have to agree with you as well, max. It's very plain when a girl is a strictly online Domme or one who does real time as well. It's such a physical and often emotional fetish that it's very hard to enjoy EVERY aspect of Dom / sub relationships when they're strictly online. I always encourage My pets to come visit Me for a deeper fetish experience. But for those who don't have the option, this is the only way we have to enjoy our fetishes together.

[sinbad]

Looks like we have the same idea. ;) Yeah, dommesandsubs has been down waay too long.

[zakfar2000]

Well, I didn't like the first post much, I really like the discussion this topic is diverted in the later posts. DomKiara you tried to explain Financial Domination, and in fact, you did good. However, I would like to initiate a discussion here, based on the following questions:

What is Financial Domination actually, with respect to being a 'Paraphillia' (Perversion)?
If we look around, almost everyone is running behind money. Does this make all the 'Greedy' people 'Financial Tops'?
Is there anyone who want to 'Waste' the money for nothing? Is there anyone who wants to spend on the 'Tops' they have submitted themselves?
What is the difference between spending money on the family members whom you love (wives/girlfriends, children, etc) and on the Tops? When you spend the money on your loved ones, do you actually fulfill your 'Financial Submission' Fantasies?

When we are talking about BDSM, we have to understand that someone can like something that many others simply 'Hate'. That is why these activities are called Paraphilia. And when we are discussing here 'Financial Domination', we are obviously not talking about the Financial Spending ignited with 'Love', 'Care', and such Emotional responses. The BDSM Scenario of 'Financial Domination' is purely based on the 'Desire of Domination/Submission'. If we look at this closely, a Top of this scenario can be considered 'Mean' by almost everyone, and a Bottom is normally referred as an Idiot. But the fact is, almost all the BDSM participants are considered 'Perverts' by most of the outsiders.

Why would someone go for Financial Submission for nothing in exchange? Well, the answer is what DomKiara also suggested, which is 'Submission of Power'. Although I don't agree with the point that Money is the most powerful thing, and Financial Submission is the 'Ultimate Sacrifice', such fantasies can be considered among 'Hard' activities of BDSM. It is one of those activities that bring high levels of Psychological responses to the mind. Remember Here! Someone being very rich might not have that much priority for money than many other things. Similarly, a Dominant enriched with plenty of resources might not have that much desire for money than other kinds of submission.

DomKiara, if you have plenty of MoneySlaves who pay you tribute without even meeting you personally, you are one of the lucky Dominatrices. As far as I know, many of the kinds have failed to fully explore the depth of BDSM, and earn enough money to afford their survival. The reason is very simple. Bottoms don't mind Financial Submissions, but they need to get to that level. As it is involved with High Level of Psychological response, it has to go through step by step process. It is not like such fantasies are uncommon, but if played stand-alone, very few people go for it. Just think about it. When you initiate a Session with a new client (who never has a BDSM session), do you directly go for the hard torture activity? Or you start slowly? And even if someone is already into BDSM, first you go with test and expand process. You don't directly go to the Hardest activity possible. If you are a Professional Dominatrix, take it in a Professional Way (like the other Business Professionals do). I will recommend you to make a list of all the Hard Torture activities (not just physical, but psychological as well), and put 'Cuckoldry' and 'Financial Domination' in the top of the list with the psychological ones. Then it will be a lot easier for you to develop your career.

There is a lot more to say on the topic, but it looks like I'm going nowhere. First I want to see the responses from you guys, and then I'll continue, with a better organized discussion.