Does hypnosis work?

[max2divor]

I've seen a number of threads in the forum which at various points get around to the question hypnosis --

It's an issue we've explored and plan to continue exploring in our James Bond series, principally with Princess Shia as superheroine-assassin Praying Mantis.

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So, what do you think?

I've posted a poll above, and welcome further comment.

A related issue is, whether hypnosis combined with seduction, erotic temptation, or fetish interests has more power, about the same, or doesn't matter because the hypnosis part adds nothing ab initio.

I have my own ideas but would like to see what others have to say without over-commenting at the start.

Cheers, Max
http://DieForHer.com

[mistressdoom]

It works if you want it to, and you submit to it.

[max2divor]

Thank you, Mistress --

I quite agree that desire is critical --

Hence, I think, the power of hypno-fetish.

Cheers,
Max
http://JamesBondRIP.com

[ldavalon]

the most underrated of an excellent series. thanks.

[DominaKiara]

I'm a trained certified hypnotist. The mental state of hypnotism is simply one of letting the subconscious mind take control while the conscious mind takes a backseat. Your conscious mind is used to filter things, and things which your conscious deems 'acceptable' or 'important' are then stored away in the subconscious for later use.

An example of this is driving. When you drive, you rarely think about things that you did when you were first learning. You rarely say in your conscious thoughts things like "check mirrors, check blind spot, turn signal, check speed," etc. That's because it is ingrained in your subconscious and you allow your subconscious mind to take over. If you were hooked up to a EEG, you would be giving the same brain wave readings if you were under hypnosis.

As is stated, it only works if you allow it, but when you do, it is an amazing way to bring you closer to your Domme and enjoy your fetishes even more.

[zakfar2000]

Interesting topic. And again, DomKiara, I praise your knowledge. Everything you said about the psychology behind 'Hypnotism' is technically correct. Hypnotism is obviously not a dizziness or lack of conscious, but is actually the taking over of subconscious mind to the peripheral awareness. Suggestions can be stored there, and priorities can be changed, utilizing 'True Hypnotism'.

Now, I would like to discuss it with 'BDSM Perspective'. (Don't get me wrong! I watch everything in the world with BDSM Perspective, including the things that are not normally considered BDSM related.)

BDSM - defined as an acronym of 6 terminologies, Domination, Submission, Sadism, Masochism, Bondage, and Discipline, is NOT simply a name of such activities. It is actually based on it's Laws - Safe, Sane & Consensual (SSC) or the later (and better) version RACK - Risk Aware Consensual Kink. Based on this, we can define BDSM as all these 6 terms combined with 'TRUE CONSENT' of the Participants, both, Tops and Bottoms.

Let's come back to Hypnotism. The true Hypnotism actually diminishes the True Consent Concept (and don't forget that after Hypnotize, many BDSM activities become illegal in many jurisdictions). However, it does not mean that someone can't have fantasies for those. But wait! Someone can have fantasies for getting Hypnotized, but after that, what happens? Once someone's priorities have changed, or suggestions have been 'Forced' to accept, the intensity of the result decreases. Look at Submission/Masochism from 'Neurological' point of view.

Masochist is someone who enjoys 'Pain' - Physical and/or Psychological. Let me repeat, it's the 'Pain' that someone enjoys. If you are hurting someone whose body has gone through Anesthesia (and is unable to feel any sensations), whether he/she really enjoys it? How? If they can't feel anything, how can they enjoy it? Lesser they feel it, lesser they enjoy it. Same thing happens with Psychological Masochism (one common form is Humiliation), and if someone is Half Conscious, then lesser 'Pleasure' will be provided to them. When we talk about Submission, someone can or cannot be a Masochist. And the full intensity of Submission is truly explored with full consciousness (directly implied with the rules discussed above).

Now, Is Hypnotism really that bad? Can't it be utilized for BDSM? It can! But in a varied version of what it is commonly believed and discussed (this is just my own idea, and I don't know if someone is utilizing this method). It can be utilized to target different sorts of 'Psychological Masochism' - Most importantly 'Fear'. Plenty of people enjoy 'Fear', but it is not easier for them to become afraid of the things around. Hypnotism can indeed be utilized to bring those feelings in the mind. Beware! If you create a lasting impression on the mind, you might not see that client again. :)

I think it's enough for today on this topic. We need to have our 'BDSM Research' on these topics, and you 'Dominatrices' can in no doubt be great help to improve our 'Small Community'.

[max2divor]

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thanks to all for the thoughtful thread participation -- i see some names here that often appear on top of something reasonable...

we've been talking about hypnosis -- the engagement of the subconscious -- and eros -- but one might add, there is a potential third factor, the mystical or the miraculous.

(depending of course on one's views of the miraculous, which begins, by definition, where science leaves off, and thus, can neither be affirmed nor refuted by science per se.)

the lovely Mistress Shia, a.k.a. Praying Mantis, has, like the lovely Domina Kiara, had some serious things to say about all this -- and so, in addition to affirming my belief that there is a sphere of miracles/mysticism...

i'm happy to refer you to our recent profile of her hypno-assassin character, now wonderfully free at:

http://dieforher.com/bond/FAP.Praying.Mantis.html (http://dieforher.com/bond/FAP.Praying.Mantis.html)

comments and criticisms, as always, welcome. we not only do not shoot the messenger; we thank and reward him.

cheers,
Max

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[zakfar2000]

Well, I don't actually oppose the idea of Hypnotism, and as far as 'Role-plays' and scenario is concerned, it can indeed utilized for something good. What I mean to say is the implication in the BDSM sessions of real life. I saw your link and it looks good. The idea is not bad either. Mind Control can indeed be utilized for many fantasies come true. And that's what I'm suggesting here actually. Instead of utilizing it for regular Submission or Humiliation, use it for the varied versions, if used directly with your clients. Online versions can be an exception though. And in movies, no rules is needed. People enjoy to watch, no matter if the real Hypnotism is delivered or everything is being acted (as far as there are good actors :P ).

[max2divor]

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new on the subject of hypnosis, Praying Mantis's back story, in High Above You.... the clip that initially snared James Bond into unwisely scheduling an online hypnosis session...

You can watch the free trailer here:

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Cheers, Max
http://DieForMe.com (http://dieforme.com)

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[johnsamuels]

I voted number 2, just because it has not worked well on me before.