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Stryder
09-27-2003, 6:52 AM
2 NEW OUTSTANDING VIDEOS AND 14 BRILLIANT PPV RELEASED

Hey gang I hope you all know that I dont usually exaggerate or even try to tell people our material is good but this time even I must say I am really proud of the 2 new videos we just released and the 14 stunning PPV clips. The new camera has provided the highest quality picture but it is the action that is really important.

I will stake my hopefully good reputation in saying I personally believe these videos (and the PPV's come from the vids) are the best most intense and sexy examples of single girl trample both barefooted and with heels that I have ever experience or been involved in anywhere at any time. It is a personal best but with someone like Marina to work with (or should I say work under) it makes this work all the more wonderful. I hope some of you give them a chance I guarantee personally that you will not be disappointed in any way.

The PPV's (14 in all commencing with "Under My Chair") can be seen at:

http://65.114.171.84/

"Dreams Do Come True" (the Wonderwoman and Jeanie vid description and pictures are at):

http://www.stryderman.com/videos/ww/dreams.htm

AND

"Beautiful Ballroom Blitz" (the video and pictures are at):

http://www.stryderman.com/videos/ball/ball.htm

I hope some of our friends can give a full review soon as it will be better coming from someone other than me.

Enjoy

klint
09-27-2003, 1:29 PM
cooooooool
Greeds from poland :)

peterek2001
09-27-2003, 1:33 PM
klint - a kupiłeś coś? Hehehe, skąd wiesz jaka jakość?:D

Stryder
09-27-2003, 9:02 PM
WOW
Thanks out there the response has been great to the vids and PPV's I am sure that no one will be disappointed I love this stuff so much. It seems to me that my friends in our community like the vids and clips where I really receive a severe pounding and love the c&b attacks as well (damn am I going to be ruined trying to keep up:D ) Even though we are a small site it is rewarding to see people giving us the chance to show them how much we care about bringing the best to them

Seriously thanks I hope that everyone gets to enjoy them I wouldnt be saying this unless I was certain of their worth in terms of content and quality.

Is anyone able to do any review yet? It would be appreciated in the usual Stryder way.

klint
09-28-2003, 1:27 AM
PETERQ nie nie kupilem ale zapowiada sie fajnie :D

Stryder
09-28-2003, 1:32 AM
SORRY GUYS
Hey Pete and Klint my Polish is not good in fact it is not existent so I cant understand you both or answer nor join the conversation without an interpretor.:D ;) :confused:

Love from Stryder:)

daddyfun58
09-28-2003, 6:29 AM
Could you please "E" me at:
daddyfun@hotmail.com
Please??
I can`t log in.
Daddo

footstool
09-28-2003, 7:06 AM
Hi Stryder and Helen,

I put my order in last night for Your two new videos:)

Stryder, Do You think Marina, Helen, or Danielle could try and shove their toes right up Your nose in a future video or maybe if all three do a video together maybe they can have a contest and see who can get their toes directly right up Your nostrils the best??????? :D


Hi Helen, how are You? I just wanted to say hello and I was wondering if You have any new trampling experiences or thoughts that You could share with us? I miss hearing from You!

Helen, I am Dreaming of being Your footstool, I would LOVE for You to describe what You would do to me if I ever have the honor of meeting You in person someday and then serving as Your footstool??? My face makes for the perfect footrest;)

Helen and Stryder, Thank You again for sharing Your love of trampling/foot fetish with us and for Your AMAZING videos! :thumbsup:

footstool

djwolf
09-28-2003, 4:26 PM
Wow, Stryder your videos just seem to get better everytime. I think I'll be purchasing some of your PPV's soon!

Tread
09-28-2003, 5:39 PM
Stryder !
I've spent enough time under women's feet to know you are a consumate MASTER of trample !! My laurels go to you !!
:beer:

peterek2001
09-28-2003, 5:43 PM
We apologize Stryder - this such our exchange of sentences :)

JoeArmacost
09-28-2003, 7:41 PM
Excellent bare heels to the eyes.

kbison
09-30-2003, 4:53 AM
Stryder,
Had a look at some of your ppv - just great! Best value for money I can think of, both because it is so good and because I want to contribute to the hospital expenses... I like the way that each video is different from the other.
For me, the thing that I don't like in the movies is that you have to couch the girls and they do what you ask them. Surprisingly, if there is domination, it is you who dominate them rather than they dominate you. This takes away the story and the fantasy and leaves just the physical stuff of row trampling. You don't even pretend to be suffering, the girls don't show manace or cruelty, and for me, that takes some of the fun and credebility away.
My friendly suggestion, to improve on a great thing, let the girls free! Let them kick you because they feel like it, and trample you because they enjoy it. And please, try to act the part of someone who is beaten up instead of giving directions.
Take care and keep up the good work.

Stryder
09-30-2003, 5:50 AM
kbison
Thank you for the feedback mate. Glad you like them anyway. We always take heed of what people say good and bad. I am not sure I can personally agree with you that I dominate or direct the girls. I see that happen too many times elsewhere or there are lots of editing film cuts in the vid to hide a substantial amount of directing and telling the girls what to do and I guess I know enough about that over the years. I think you will find that all I ever do is let them know they can do what they are doing harder or to really give it too me if they are concerned about hurting me. Now this is concern for their concern not direction or dominating them.

I dont tell them what to do in the vid or even how the vid should proceed I basically just tell them as you have suggested to do what they want. So you will hear me say "go for it" "or more" or "yes" or ask them to please stamp my face etc. And some of that is to please the audience knowing what they want to see.

Now even most really experienced dominatrixes if they are professional will want the guy to let them know if it is too hard (which I dont do) or if they can take more so they can be guided as to where the guy's boundaries are. When you have accepted that I show such severe real action really (without many editing cuts at all) and that you have some concerns you that I may have to go to hospital (lol) then you know that most women will have some caution that they wont go too far unless they know they can. And they always demand to be told if they should go harder or softer so they are still in control but the best way to do this during a shot without stopping is to just say "go for it".

The only thing we discuss before a vid involves the girls all asking (or telling if you prefer) me to let them know if I want it harder and so I do and they always comply not because I tell them too but because they know I would not lie to them about my tolerance level so it is trust. In fact before reading your message tonight I actually was taking to Marina and she said she loves how far I let her push my limits but she again warned me not to say more unless I mean it or to let her know when I have had too much. I told her the c&b crush and kicking was very popular and she said "good I enjoy that" but you will have to let me know as I dont want to kill you or your baby chances with Helen. Where in that type of request is my domination of this wonderful woman rather it is her making her demand. It cant be real without her or anyone else knowing how real to make it and that can only be achieved by the intensity of the action and that does need communication between consenting adults that is something that does not lend itself to the concept of sub or dom just communication and trust which a sub dom relationship of any kind MUST have.

So by them asking me to let them know it is their request (or safety demand) so it is complying with their directions dont you see that? If I did not tell them its ok to destroy me and they did anyway and something bad happened they would not forgive me for not following or complying with their request that I indicated to them how hard to go or when to stop.

When you say this takes away from the realism a little that does not make sense because what we do is real not staged and if it was staged the girl/s would know exactly just what to do when to do it and how hard. The fact that the "how hard issue" arises in the video without a cut to explain to the girl shows realism.

I am sorry unlike some companies I cannot play act that I am being abused or beat up or that I hate it....as this is the most annoying thing in the world to me to hear a guy pretending to hate something he is not and to my way of thinking it is as fake as Pam Andersons tits. If I had to pretend that I was in agony when I am not (as strange as that seems to some who see the level of abuse I take) or hating it when I am not or it was against my will when it is not then that WOULD really take away from the realism and not be the true thing. It is one of things my friend Carlo and I dont see eye to eye on because I know of his love for trample and it seems silly to pretend he hates it because that is what others want him to do. Although I know he works so hard for a little guy that sometimes he is in pain and not enjoying it so the pain is real and face is real but sometimes it is not and then I think he should be enjoying himself rather than pretending to be beat up or tortured against his will etc.

I will try to do something in the manner you suggest but I think you may be disappointed domination of one person over the other does not always involve a lesser being and a superior being or someone being abused or tormented against their will. Most doms do it because they like to be dominant and most subs do it because they love it not hate it. For me all the doormat, worm, maggot, slave, slave, pigboy, carpet yes mistress no mistress is all play act and really detracts from two people enjoying this type of physical and mental challenge and everyone experiences this reality differently. And this type of acting and dialog is a different type of dom sub activity not mine and I find you often see it in vids that lack really action or intense physical contact as a stop gap or fill in.

I still feel I am worshipping from a submissive position to a beautiful woman but I am still a man and nothing less if my wife is on top when making love she takes the dominant role and just because she does this does not mean I have to pretend I am worthless or being punished and she is still in the dominant position if I ask her to slap me or pinch me or just go for it...because she either will or wont depending on her mood.

Underfoot if I say to Helen, Marina, or anyone "more" or "go for it" when they are doing something dangerous like kicking to the head, throat trample, c&b torture or ballbusting or "give it to me" it is letting her know I trust her enough to let her give me more, give it to me or go for it. If they comply it is because they want to and not because I told them they simply know that they can. No amount of telling someone to do something will make them do something that they think is too dangerous or repugnant but I would not want a woman to start a vid by kicking my face or balls with all her strength without measuring where I am at in terms of readiness or strength because it can vary at times particularly if I am tired or injured or unwell or just feeling down.

You can tell we are not playing games and there is a level of responsibilty that I owe to the women and they to me. If someone seriously injured me by doing something sudden and way over the top they would incur trouble with the law and so would I for allowing it (in all common law countries) not to mention what it would do to me and how it would make them feel. So when someone is doing something real and potentially dangerous it is only right that I let them know it is ok to take it up a notch it is the opposite of the well known "safe word" that works the other way...but I am different as I usually say yes or go or more rather than ouch, or stop, or no. If I have to pretend to do that then I am not me.

Believe me the girls stay dominant and in control and lose nothing of this by being told it is ok to hurt or attack me harder if they want. YOu dont hear this much with Helen as she knows me too well and even though Marina looks like she has been a dom all her life and made a 100 videos her first experience of any kind like this was Heels of Pleasure and Pain only a few months ago. She is learning to read me like a book. The indication to the girl to give it too me is also a indication to the camera (as I never know where it is) that something good is likely to happen in that area and to be ready to capture it. So it is twofold
1. THE MOST IMPORTANT it complies with the direction from all the girls I am involved with on the site to let them know how hard they can go or to move a foot or heel if it is in a dangerous or really painful place or to put their foot on a dangerous place to let them know it is ok and then let them know how over the top they can go with my mind and body or conversely when to pull back
1. IT IS CODE for Mark our cameraman (wherever he may be and whatever angle he may be filming to be ready to capture some severe, dangerous or amazing footage. If we scripted and planned he would already know. If I directed the girls he would already know it is because anything can happen at anytime as they are pretty much doing their thing I let him know by saying "go for it" or "more" alway and only with really dangerous and severe action so you guys dont miss it and the action is wasted.

So you see there is a lot more to trample than just laying down mate.

Anyway that is my thoughts on the matter I would be interested to hear from others I hope that gives you some insight from our perspective.

kbison
09-30-2003, 6:19 AM
Stryder,
Thank you for your reply that gives a glimpse into what is happening behind the scenes. Much, if not all, of the action in femdom and trample is acting and playing, and your movies are full of them - for example a scene with a genie. This does not mean that the action is "not real", just that both sides like to have fun. I perfactly understand the need to give directions and respect the dialogical relationship that you have with the girls. I still would like to see some more acting.
Let me repeat that I am not complaining, just hoping to enjoy the next movie even more than I enjoyed the previous ones.

footstool
09-30-2003, 9:53 AM
Hi Stryder and Helen,

I put my order in last night for Your two new videos :)

Stryder, Do You think Marina, Helen, or Danielle could try and shove their toes right up Your nose in a future video or maybe if all three do a video together maybe they can have a contest and see who can get their toes directly right up Your nostrils the best??????? :D


Hi Helen, how are You? I just wanted to say hello and I was wondering if You have any new trampling experiences or thoughts that You could share with us? I miss hearing from You!

Helen, I am Dreaming of being Your footstool, I would LOVE for You to describe what You would do to me if I ever have the honor of meeting You in person someday and then serving as Your footstool??? My face makes for the perfect footrest ;)

Helen and Stryder, Thank You again for sharing Your love of trampling/foot fetish with us and for Your AMAZING videos! :thumbsup:

footstool

Carlo31
09-30-2003, 12:15 PM
Mr S. (Stryder-Steve-) you call me in cause ...I answer :)

Let's try to fix the point (not easy through the multiple msg of footstool saying he did purchase your last 2 videos) Kidding mate
:)

You can try to explain how real can be a trample experience you have got in a fetish club and I for one will believe you ..no question about it

A video is a total different story.A video (no matter which people are involved on it or the kind of videos) is staged period.

As soon as you have to say to the girls go on , or harder or explaining even the little insignificant detail it's something arranged, organized so it's staged
No matter if you explain them what to do just because you are concerned for them not being worried or how far they can go...as soon as you explain them what to do or not to do...to which limit they can go or not go..it's arranged and staged because they follow what people told them to do
Surely they can have all the freedom they want but as soon they have to follow a type of action (for example not making a blow job while they are trampling you just to take the first example that that came in my mind) that's staged

The only way a video should not be staged would be if there is an hidden camera or the girls arrive you don't say a word to them
before, during (especially) and after the video and they do everything under they will

Everybody has his own way to see things mate
For me seeing a guy asking the girls during a video to be harder or that he enjoy the treatment is very annoying because i want to think and to believe he is not enjoying the pain he is getting (let's say it ruines the real meaning of the trampling fantasy or at least mine ).
The video is not made for him or his pleasure but for the people buying it and I doubt people prefere to see the strongest man ever able to get the most incredible pain and even worst enjoying it than a person suffering and fighting like hell to finish the video
Please note it's just a general example and the first person of this example were not you as i'm not the second person of that example neither :))))


I have NEVER AND WILL NEVER act in a video.NO WAY
I have never acted thinking what people would like to see simply because in our videos the action is enough hard itself that is almost impossible any sort of act and you should have experienced it yourself doing a couple of videos with us

Another important point
The organization of a video
If a video is well organized and the girls know exactly what to do
it's not more faked or staged than a video in which the guy on the floor tell the girls to stomp him harder or less harder
It's exactly the same thing.
You are experienced enough to know that you can arrange a perfect video in every single detail that there is no way to have everything under control during the real action... the girls can do whatever they wish anyway and anytime as much as they give me a chance to keep me alive :)

Fake video or staged video for me is something like a guy is not getting pain and he is acting like he is getting pain
About this I agree TOTALLY WITH YOU, that's a stupid used attitude on the net ....but in all honesty i don't feel involved and I hope you wrongly mentionied my name.
Our videos are too hard to have a fake action and the few times i was not in pain as per usual (the girls was not in their usual form maybe) i was smiling or joking with them but NEVER EVER showing a suffering face while I was not.NO WAY MATE
You like to see people enjoying trampling during the action I don't.
For me trampling must to be pain and not pleasure for the person under the woman feet (at least in a video) for you not
That's our different concept of a trampling video that's really not so much important...to everybody his own
About the main thing we both agree....fake action is absurd stupid and as you rightly said in different occasions made only by people not really into it... and everybody can easily see the difference


But if for faked or staged is intented just a video that is well arranged and organized just because there is a attempt to build some stupid story to give space and form to some sort of fantasy than i totally disagree with you because if the action is solid it's not a story that make it a fake
At the opposite the girls enjoy a lot playing in these little stories and feel much more involved and valorized during the full thing

The only real not staged video would be just if you are at home having your dinner..your girls arrive push and stomp you hard on the floor and than trample you without you would say a word not before not during not after the video.No one single word
That's the only thing i would find 100% realistic...all the rest for a reason or another more or less is staged ...me, you, Rudy, Slave tread ,Tramplee are on the same boat...the pain is 100% true but I don't believe to this myth of real trampling life showed on video
I believe we can build some very funny and exciting situation not having the same girls arrive and trample the guy for no reasons
We all know the reason but i find interesting and exciting to flight with the fantasy thinking they trample you because for many different possible situations and reasons :)

Stryder
09-30-2003, 5:50 PM
CARLO
I agree totally mate. Sorry if I was confused about the man being punished and attack theme I thought you once mentioned to me when I was in France that this is what many of your customers wanted to see so that is why you did it. It might have been 'someone' else and I apologise for the misapprehension that has existed ever since. I just thought that as it was the main theme of all of them it was the only way.

I do get hurt and feel pain too and something in me however struggles to hide it sometimes it must be that big boys dont cry thing that my folks pounded into me growing up.

I know that as soon as you or I or anyone shoot a video with any theme etc it is not real per se but a video. What we both aim for however I hope is real action. It is difficult for me that I can take so much because many girls into trample and those who have trampled others sometimes judge me from others they have trampled where it was all pain and pleading to stop or not be so hard so sometimes so the vid does not look like Stryder taking a walk in the park the girls need to know they can more than just be cute and gentle. I know that it is a good idea to plan some of these things before the shoot or to take an edit cut to explain something but I like the camera to just roll.

I would never criticise the way you do things or you yourself and sorry if you thought I was doing the comparison thing. I just thought that the message from kbison was asking me to do things more like others (including you) and I wanted him to know that we all do things differently period. But as I said before the same finished product comes out for people to enjoy. I dont think anyone like you, me, rudy, etc etc should ever compare with others as each is individual and unique in the way they do thing.

I suppose there is no real trample unless a person disguises themself as a road or stair case so well that no one knows they are there. Even if a hidden camera caught the action between a dom and sub or husband and wife or even a fetish club there still has to be a certain amount of communication to let people know you are hurt or they can really go harder with you etc and it is not a natural (in terms of everyday thing not unnatural) thing for anyone to do so any scenario private, public, or on video cannot be called a real thing...but the action can and that is what we try to capture and so do you. But with things like some people (not you) saying "no please" "help" "I will call the police" etc when the action is fairly soft or sexy etc I could never do or say and will have to stick to my "give it too me" from time to time. I think it is because we dont really like the dom and sub theme or a man being punished or humiliated as the girls (not me) want it to be really fun but also really severe, kind of like friends etc taking it to the limit. I like dom outfits but not the dom mind set at all. The few I have visited personally usually talk to you before hand and they want to know how you wanted to be spoken to etc and how much you can take and where....so I usually say to go for it show them what parts of my body can be destroyed and tell them not to worry and I will tap or tell them if it is too much but I do ask that the conversation be normal conversation between a woman doing this type of thing to a man rather than the all those boring tired old dom type sayings and behaviour.

I guess we have to do more fantasy type stuff (it is difficult because you have done most of the fantasies you can imagine and I would never like to copy anything any one else has done). But it is hard to explain to folks that are used to watching the action instead of being in it. As you know some people have some outrageous requests for the things they want to see a woman do to your body. THe request for more acting like I am being punished is not a hard one to fulfil but it will take some practice:D .

I think the right balance was achieved in Stryders Deadly Dream dont you. It was a mixture of your way and my way and we dumped the mattress (boy was the mattress pissed off with me for that :D ) and look at the success of that and I think the girls enjoyed some different things. I know we learnt things from each other. I see some of my way in what you have done lately and I try to do more of the theme or fantasy for people like you.

So who else can we learn from other than our peers? And in this trample world peers are few and far between but I can never be you and you could never be me so I hope people can understand that we are very different even though our interests and desires are substantially the same. Both of us even get different things out of the experience which is great because wouldnt it be boring if we were all the same. As you say I dont think I could ever achieve a 50 girl vid with 50 gorgeous girls or even think about funding or managing something of that proportion (not that I could not be trampled by 50 just could not every go out and organise it like you). AND there are some things that I do you will never achieve because either you dont want to, it is too much or too dangerous or the girls would not do it or it is not your thing as you have said before. So people should not compare the small differences between us but enjoy the differences so that between us we can keep a larger number happy.

Cheers my boy:D

LOve us:)

Carlo31
09-30-2003, 6:17 PM
Cheers Steve

Clear and honest as per usual mate
Thanks to understand what i wanted to say and now i understand very well what you wanted to say

I can assure you that if you had just the chance to see me on a video at least one time you would tell for sure how real I am during the action (not because of the brutality i can take or not per se) and how i really don't add or hide any pain i am getting ..I'm simply myself

For my own opinion you don't really have to add any fantasies stories to your videos ....the action you perform is already so solid and strong that it represent a fantasy itself and you know i mean it because i have an incredible appreciation of the kind of action you are able to perform that has no comparison anytime and anywhere and if to see on video is amazing to see on live like i did is a true experience :)

Yes Stryder's deadly dream was great and for me it remains the real perfect video

That's the type of video that mix perfectly all the ingredients
We'll never be able in my opinion to repeat such a perfect video nor me neither you simply because there was the perfect mix of both our ways to see and live trample meeting together

Take care my dear big pal

Carlo

Stryder
09-30-2003, 9:24 PM
MR C;)

Ah my friend M. LaMattress....thanks for the last message. I went back to study but then had a revelation that might help others understand some of the different opinions you and I share and also to help you understand why sometimes it seems like we are in disagreement when we are in fact not. Hopefully I can put forward my lawyer argument on one point and you will end up agreeing even if it is a qualified one.:cool:

YOu must love what I do and what I am capable of otherwise we would never have met and you would not have invited me to visit and do some vids for you. I must in turn like what your site does and your similar existing love of trample (since childhood) otherwise I would never have come because I did not need the trampling of such beautiful girls as I can do that here but I wanted to meet you and do something different for the fans through you. WE MUST BE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT ONE MATE and despite some rocky things happening while we were there and shortly afterward for various reasons (one of the biggest is that we did not get time to understand the other properly and so saw the differences as an attack on the other) that was sorted out like true friends and so things are were they should be.

Ah but here is something that I want you to refect on as a means of understanding once and for the little area we both stumble over in regard to each other I HOPE.

You and I have both been passionate about trample and being hurt under a womans feet from our earliest memories, we have fantasised when we were too young to do much else about it, obsessed about it when we could not get it, dreamed about it, experimented etc etc. BUT one common thread (and I think you really successfully raised this issue with the french highway man and speed hump) that it is sexually motivated. All fetishes for a man are regardless of how it is enjoyed and the end result. For you and I to be trampled severely by such beautiful caring or uncaring women is sometimes better than any thing else sexual or sensual or physical that we can imagine.

When you say that in your opinion if a girl is trampling a man like you or me with cruel intent it is not for the man to enjoy it or he should appear or pretend not to enjoy it to me is the one thing that does not make sense nor can it if looked at logically mate:)

Yes she should not care whether he enjoys it or not that I agree with BUT the simple unassailable fact is you and I do bloody enjoy it so much it keeps us going for one better and bigger. What ever we get out of it as an individual the fact is whatever that motivator is the underlying factors are:
1. We are getting a sexual thrill from this treatment because it is sexual to us per se or we get the thrill from the idea or concept or feeling that we are being treated with contempt and with cruelty but for the masochist this is pleasure and it is sexual
2. We get the thrill from allowing a woman to do such incredible cruel and dangerous things to us but we are not frightened or scared or not wanting to do it we are excited, charged and motivated to being the best trample victim possible BUT we enjoy that feeling despite the pain.
3. We do enjoy the pain, the humiliation the torture or the sheer savagery of the trample
4. We love the way the women look and feel to us and the various ways they look at us whether it be with a smile a sneer or a loving look like whilst hurting us under foot.
5. We love the feeling of helpless
6. We love to let them have that control over us and treat us in this manner.

I could go on but the undeniable fact is that whatever you or I want to portray to the public we DO ENJOY everything they do to us for whatever the reason. When you plan a video or do a shoot or an audition of course the girls will want to know what they can and cant do within reason or they look at pictures or vids from others and understand what it is all about. The more experienced they get the less they need to know or want to know.

It reminds me of the old joke:
Masochist: "Oh beat me, hit me trample me hurt me"
Sadist: "NO" (LOL)

Fact: a masochist is no less a masochist because he or she asks for more pain it does not make them dominant if the one who they want to hurt them complies.

Fact: If a person in a submissive position asks the dominant one to hurt them or go harder it is not telling the dom what to do it is telling them they have the control and trust and consent (it always must be with consent and dom who does not respect this is a fool) to do it without consequences. I suppose I could throw in a "please more pain, more stomping, kick me hard as you like please mistress" but I hate that type of talk and so do the women (all the women) I work with with the possible exception of Diane who seems to like that talk but most things doms do anyway is what they think the sub will like or what they have learnt the sub likes or they have asked before hand what the sub likes and that does not make them less dominant because they comply with the subs wishes...they would not last long as a dom if they only did what they wanted when and how they wanted. So therein lies the one fallacy of the whole true sub dom equation. It is a relationship built up on sharing, communication, trust and balance and control. Anyone who thinks anything else really does not understand or has never really experienced this. I am sure my friend VQ who is the most perfect dom in the world in my view would echo this. She would never do something to another person if she did not think it was permitted or sane or without their consent express or implied and that is what makes her so great and so perfect. A sub and dom really are two equals but opposite side of the same coin. It is not a coin if they are opposite side of different coins or one is on a coin and the other is a stone. THe control and power a dom has over any sub is only as much as that sub is prepared to give but it does not make a dom less a dom because he or she understand this concept and uses it.


SEE PART TWO

Stryder
09-30-2003, 9:27 PM
PART TWO FOR YOU
For you and I pain is pleasure and what others see as humiliation or degrading behaviour or an attack on some poor guy that does not want it is for us pleasure. Perhaps some of our friends or customers like to imagine that all this happens to a guy who does not want it to or who is helpless (but we can only ever pretend that) but when they think about it they are putting themselves in our position and it motivates them sexually because they want to be treated that way not because they would NOT enjoy it or it terrifies them but because it stimulates their imaginations and libido and their fantasies regardless of where or why those fantasies exist they may all see something different or imagine something different even looking at the same video or sequence but it still boils down to they enjoy it or want it or have the same obsession and desires as we do that motivate us sexually. Anyone who says they do not get anything sexual out of it AS YOU YOURSELF SO RIGHTLY POINTED OUT TO SOMEONE A SHORT TIME AGO is not being honest or does not know what they want or why they are doing something.

So for you I think you try to show people what it would be like to be attacked against your will and have to struggle to survive BUT you can never really truly do that because even if you did accidently die doing something like this you would enjoy it to the end. THe girls should not care if you enjoy it or not I agree but we do enjoy it otherwise what is the point of doing it.

I think I can go one better. The only way to truly show what you try to show or the only way I can achieve real trample is for some poor guy who does not like, feet, shoes, legs or being trampled and dominated by a beautiful girl to be treated like us totally against his will. The cries and the pain and the damage and his lack of enjoyment would be frightenly horrible BUT>
1. That would be a serious assault in anyones country (yes even in France where according to some there are not laws (lol) )
2. Most girls even the cruel ones are also nurturers and so it would upset most women unless they were total psycho cases or killers or they were doing it for self defence against someone dangerous to deliberately try to main or injure another human unless they knew they could and trusted the person telling them they could.
3. The guy would most likely be physically and psychologically damaged for life whereas you and I feel elated and wonderful even though sore afterwards and feel such happiness and love toward the woman or women that have just treated us like this.

Do you see my point here. WE can never really show a guy not enjoying it or against his will because it never is that way for us try as we might to show otherwise. YOu know I told you how I wanted to die and you had the same fantasy. Lay on the floor outside an international super model convention and shoe fashion extravaganza and close all doors except the one I was laying at and yelling fire (lol) a great act but only a one night stand (rofl)

So what you do is try to get as close as you can to showing that to people but you are not showing it to people who think "my good that poor guy is being destroyed by these savage women against his will" they are people like us mate who think "my good that lucky sod I wish I could be there or I wish I could take what he takes" they are excited by the idea not terrified.

What I try to do is find women who are cruel and really enjoy doing these things to a man and I seek to find a balance here I dont want them to care about whether I enjoy it or not but if they enjoy the reaction they get from me by being so goddamn cruel and dangerous to me and having me like a fool beg for more and harder and they gladly do more and harder and still enjoy it even more then I achieve what I set out to do. They say they dont want me to pretend I am being killed or attacked etc but they do enjoy themselves being cruel and knowing that what they are doing is driving me crazy and wanting them to be even crueller. If you watch our material closely as a person who understands the whole thing you will see the girl doing things of her own initiative which includes the dangerous things but they all demand I tell them when to be even more cruel or dangerous or to move their foot if it is a problem or onto a danger area when I am ready for what they will do it.

Whether like me I cant hide the enjoyment of being treated like this by a beautiful woman or many women or like you wanting to show the other side of the coin WE BOTH ENJOY IT SO MUCH otherwise neither of us would have met or even be here or providing this material for the world to see. The only person who would not enjoy this treatment would be someone who hated it or was not interested at all.

We both achieve what we achieve because we enjoy it so much (we love it in fact and it is a main part of our lives probably even more for you) this I think is clearly demonstrated by our material regardless of what we as the individual guy under heels shows to the audience. My mind truly converts most of the things that you and others find so amazing and shocking and severe to pleasure and a great sexual thrill I cant help that it my crossed wires in my head in this regard it is not my size that stops me screaming and taking so much (being fit for my age helps at little) it is my mind and heart and my love for the woman (any woman) that would so kindly treat me so badly (FUNNY EXPRESSION BUT I THINK IT SUMS IT UP PERFECTLY DONT YOU) I think you still do the same thing as me but perhaps your wires are not quite as crossed as mine an natural survival and pain come through when it should as a safety measure but give time you might cross your wires further (not that you should as you know the damage I receive and it is not good for your body in the long run but I cant help it mate)

I cant help showing the passion and love I am feeling even when being treated at the worst you can imagine and that is true incurable masochism. So I find the women who best suit this mind set and life style I have who enjoy giving this foolish old trample idiot masochist everything he begs for and more and enjoy seeing me lap it up.

Now how does that explanation sit with you and I is it helpful does it help others? I am different to many and I want to show people that difference my way. So are you and so do you its as simple as that. But my friend dont ever try to convince your friend the big crazy pain pig Stryder that you dont enjoy what the girls do to you because I know you live for it and it is the most imporant thing (well almost) in the world to you and that is why what YOU do is so popular because it is easy to believe you are real but not so easy for me to believe it is against your will or you are a poor victim because wanting this treatment and asking for it and getting it done is your request not the girls....it rarely ever is for anyone.

The trick is to find the right girls and I think for both our purposes we have. But you have heard that when the pupil is ready the teacher will appear and the teacher also learns from the pupil it is the same with the girls. When they know you are ready to be treated severely (and they have been given the consent to do this to you by you) they will comply and if they are the right girls they comply not because you said so but only because they like to hurt you whether you enjoy it or not is irrelevant to them (it it should be) but if they can see that you do get pleasure from the treatment the perfect cruel woman will take it further secretly hoping you will break and plead them to stop which of course the true perfect trample woman will do if you REALLY want them to stop.

You are right that not many perfect women like this exist and that is why I only have a few that I love to work with. The girl HAS to be really enjoying herself (not pretending to) whether it is because she likes being cruel, she likes the control, she thinks she looks great doing this, she likes to show off what a guy is letting her do, she does not like men, she has a shoe fetish herself and loves to see what her shoes are doing to another human being, because she gets turned on being sadistic, or she just enjoys doing something different. If there is no true enjoyment or cheeky cruel attitude from the woman I dont want to continue and in fact I just get hurt because I feel she is doing something she is not totally comfortable with. I think you must do the same really and that is why you give the girls an audition first because even the most beautiful will not be good if they look, frightened, bored or just doing a job they have been told to do.

That is a long story mate but do you ever expect anything less from me. I hope this helps you understand me even better and why I am not saying I think you are not doing it right or you should do it this way or that I am just saying the whole reason we both do it is the enjoyment and love of it and we should not hide that even for the audience because our audience is made up of people who would love to take our place or wish they could because they love it too.

Carlo31
09-30-2003, 10:10 PM
Hey Mr Steven, good done
Very deep and good analisys mate

I will reply in a better way tomorrow as it's very late and I don't want to answer in two words

But a couple of word key to write straight away

I have never said that Trampling is not sexual for me.
It's the most sexual exiting thing for me and as you rightly remembered I pointed out some time ago our common friend that was saying he was searching for trampling just for fun :)

I SAID THAT I DON'T SEARCH MY SEXUAL GRATIFICATION IN THE VIDEOS AND THE KIND OF ACTION PERMORMED IN OUR VIDEOS ARE NOT MADE FOR ME OR THE JOY AND PLEASURE OF THE VICTIM...ASK RASTA, DAVE, YOURSELF THAT HAVE GOT AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF LEVEL OF CRUELTY AND THOUGH ACTION 90% OF OUR VIDEOS ARE ....I DON'T PLAN ANY KIND OF ACTION THAT FIT EXACTLY WHAT IS MY EXCITATION BECAUSE I REPEAT VIDEOS ARE NOT MADE FOR US BUT FOR THE CUSTOMERS AND IN ALL HONESTY I'M NOT INTO THE PAIN THING PER SE TO GET EXCITED WITH THE TYPE OF VIDEOS WE MAKE
THE PAIN FACTOR IS FUNDAMENTAL FOR A TRAMPLING VIDEO IN MY OWN OPINION...AND MY ROLE IS TO TRY TO IMAGINE THINK AND REALIZE AMAZING THOUGHT STUFF
WHEN I SAY THE VIDEO ARE NOT MADE FOR THE EXCITATION OF THE ACTOR THAT DOES NOT MEAN I DISLIKE IT OR I DON'T LIKE WHAT I AM DOING ..I LOVE IT BUT IT DOES NOT FIT STRICTLY MY SEXUAL EXCITATION SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PAIN IS TOO HIGH AND THERE IS NO TIME AND WAY FOR ME TO ENJOY WHILE DOING A FIGHT FOR MANY HOURS OF A VIDEO REALIZE

SO WHY ARE YOU DOING IT ?
BECAUSE I LOVE TO DISCOVER NEW SITUATIONS AND GET NEW LIMITS IN OUR BELOVED FETISH.THAT'S THE PART OF OUR WORK I ENJOY THE MOST.
I HAVE PURCHASED TOO MANY VIDEO TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS SOMETHING AMAZING OR SIMPLY A NORMAL BORING TRAMPLE VIDEO
ME AS EX VIDEO BUYER AND WATCHER I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT MOST OF PEOPLE WANT TO SEE FROM THEM....THE IDEA OF SOMETHING AMAZING IS GREAT FOR EVERYBODY WATCHING IT BUT TOTALLY DIFFERENT WHEN YOU ARE THE ONE UNDER ....FANTASY AND REALITY ARE VERY DIFFERENT AND WHEN YOU ARE UNDER A CONSTANT AND HARD TRAMPLING FOR HOURS BELIEVE IT OR NOT I STILL LIKE IT A LOT BUT I'M NOT EXCITED BY DOING IT AT ALL
IN SOME WAY IS LIKE THE COMIC GUY THAT SPEND HOURS TO MAKE PEOPLE LAUGHING IN HIS SHOW...HIS MAIN GOAL IS TO MAKE HIS AUDIENCE HAPPY...HE DOES NOT ARRANGE AND THINK ABOUT THE SHOW JUST FOR HIM TO HAVE A GOOD LAUGH BUT FOR MAKING PEOPLE LAUGHING LIKE HELL
he still enjoy what he does but IT DOES NOT MEAN HE MUST TO LAUGH AS MUCH AS HIS AUDIENCE TO BE A GOOD COMIC OR A REAL COMIC....
THE PART 2 TOMORROW MATE
SORRY FOR THE CAPS....I FORGOT THEM AND I'M TOO LAZY TO TAKE THEM OFF :))))

Stryder
09-30-2003, 10:12 PM
PART THREE
When I talk about us showing the world real trample I mean it. What our vids (and I agree that as soon as you do a shoot or put on a costume or plan a scene or method it is not real per se) show on video is exactly the way I get trampled in my private life by Helen or any other woman and the same as I do at clubs, communication, intensity, and hopefully showing the joy and pleasure I get from it so I can share it with the world (the joy and pleasure is pretty obvious). It is the way I have done it since being young and even when I visited brilliant hookers it was not much different to what you see on vid.

If I did not have the site and did not shoot vids and take pics I would still be doing it the same way, even the dressing up. So what I try to bring is real as I do it when I am really doing it for our own pleasure the only difference (and sometimes it is a nuisance but we try to ignore it) is the camera. But other than the camera it is just how I always do it in private or otherwise and that is the real I talk about. But even in private it is not real per se because that can only be from a person who does not want to be trampled or a women who does not know she is trampling someone. Everything else is just real people in situations that involve them doing something they want to do. I am sure if you do something with a woman or women in private without the camera it is probably the same as you do on camera with perhaps you and the girls being a little more relaxed without the prying eye of the camera. BUT this is the only effect way to show what we do to the world unless they can come and visit and watch it without us knowing. ;)

Oh and I agree 100% with you. And I know it excites you. We dont plan the vids around what I love and like either but I am lucky because what most of the audience likes I love too. When you see the favourite vids and clips that are sold from our site it is lucky for me it is exactly the stuff I love so it is easy for me to provide it. I always like you listen and watch what the customers and audience want and lucky for me it is exactly what I love too in most instances. But for me even when they are really being cruel (and you know what levels I take) it still turns me on and the more they do to me and the harder the more I enjoy it so I cant help that. The only time I suffer is when I am really tired, unmotivated, or I dont like the girl, or I am injured, or the girl is boring, clumsy, drunk or not really interested or worse still really scared and frightened of hurting me. Even if she is stunning and a goddess to look at if she cant enjoy it or she is any of the things above we cant use her because I cant enjoy someone like that and I dont enjoy the trample and it shows and that would not be good for me or the little site we have. Most of our audience seems to prefer the kicks, stomps, face and throat and c&b brutal trample so for me that is not a problem and I can alway provide because that is what I want to see in a video as well....so I am lucky there and by extension so it this audience.

Yours is multiple and even though you dont plan it for your pleasure I believe that but you are also lucky because if your audience did not love it too you would not be able to do such regular great multi trample. What makes it so hard IS the camera and the planning that goes into it etc. When you have to have part of your mind on that and doing a great vid for the audience it takes away some of the strength you would otherwise have in the same situation without the camera, the thoughts of the audience and the thought of getting everything just right. As I said I am in pain a lot too if I think about it but my mind says this is good and only occasionally does it get too much for me and usually if something is not right etc.

Remember I did speak with Dave and Rasta and they both said they did not like being trampled in heels much as it was too painful but it was what the majority of the audience wanted (as you well know). Some of the problems that probably arose was that they could not take it like you or love it like you in that regard and wanted to too much do it their way which is good but did not cover the greater part of the audience. So often when it seemed painful and against their interest or personal taste it was. You are different to them because for you like me it is your taste and that is why you are going it alone and you will probably be happier (I think you already are). Often for me like you I think it is more sexy and exciting watching the finished item on video because we are not going through the physical torture that our bodies go through to our own personal level each time then we also see it as our customers do. BUT I guarantee that anyone taking the place of either of us would really want to know what they want because as we both say sometimes the things we dream for can come true and often it can be a nightmare when the dream becomes real.

If I had to do too much of trample that I did not like as much I would not be very happy either so I am glad that what I like and what the majority of my audience likes is the same but we do adapt for our friends that like other things but there are things I just will not do because I hate it and could not deliver a believable real action product. I learn new things believe it or not. I really enjoy runners trample now BUT still not more than gorgeous, heels, sandals or barefeet.

Ritchie
10-01-2003, 8:44 AM
To me, giving Stryder advice about trampling is tantamount to giving the Pope advice about being Catholic.

Stryder, thanks for all you do for the community as you are one of a few with a pay site that provides free clips and pictures on a regular basis...it speaks volumes about your character.

Thanks to YOU and HELEN.:) She has to be a remarkable little lady to let her husband pursue his fetish as you do. Who in this forum can possible make that same claim?:)

toad
10-01-2003, 9:55 AM
Great looking video Stryder and wow are those heels nice. Looking forward to seeing more to come.

Stryder
10-01-2003, 4:06 PM
RITCHIE
Thanks for the big compliment...I am not catholic though but dad is mum wanted the kids Anglican because it was the orange and green Irish thing when they got married and it was her little rebellion :D Its funny the only folks who still take that seriously are in Ireland but hopefully that will resolve itself one day because generally they are a happy loving lot the Irish and I have the blood. Poor old Pope is not looking well lately and I hope his boss is keeping a good safe eye on him.

I am always open to advice. Whilst I dont agree with most of the last lot I just got I still take heed of what I can and try to make an adjustment where it is needed. I think I can let the girls know just to go for it before the vid and tell them I will give a sign if it is too much and therefore the folks wont have to listen to me ask the girls to really work me over. I will find it next to impossible to pretend I am hating it or being punished against my will or in totally hellish agony (some folks would be in the same position) but mate I just cant I love it too much. But often the girls themselves (and believe me they are doing what they want not what I want) get carried away in one area doing something they are enjoying but sometimes you need to move their foot to another place because 1. They ARE hurting in that other place because they have been there too long and 2. YOu know in your mind you only have an hour to capture as much action of the kind that our friends and fans like so you need to have the variety.

Often the girls (even Helen) will say afterward: Sorry about working your throat over too long I like seeing your face go red etc....

When kbison said let the girls kick you when and if they want is fine if you dont know the girls...actually getting someone like Marina or Christie (both of them in particular) not to stomp or kick is the hard part they REALLY love it and seem to favour that type of punishment. I notice that no one anywhere can take that type of punishment too long and certainly not for almost an hour. I have told them sometimes it is too hard and too much for even stupid me to take especially in the head or balls...So they do tell me and it is TELL ME to let then know directly when I am ready willing and able to take it and how hard to give it. So I believe that gives the touch of reality to the vid rather than taking a cut saying to the girls "Ok now kick me 20 times or so in the next segment starting softer and going really hard until I tap or say uncle" ;)

As I have said there is nothing wrong with someone who is in pain saying stop or mercy or please no more and if they are being truthful and not acting the girl must stop no matter how much of a dom she is that is right and proper sub dom manners.

Equally it is fine for a masochist to ask his "tormentor" for want of a better term (I think of them as angels no matter what they do and therein lies the difference between me and others) to hurt him more and for the giver to give more if they want to. This is important with us because I have such a strong bond and friendship with all the girls they are not employees or hired heels but my wife and my closest friends and my business partners wife etc.

We have a social life together as well and so we communicate a lot about many things. They without exception (even Diane) want me to clearly let them know that they have free reign to work me over big time for the audience and to give them a gentle hint if they get to into what they are doing and forget to vary things. We dont want to start heavily planning and directing because even if you do with women who ARE truly into what they are doing are better left mostly to there own devices instead of spending 3-4 hours stopping and starting and directing and saying "now in the next segment work my throat over do some heavy face crushing in heels, then stamp my face, crush my throat, jump on my body etc etc.......ITS TOO MUCH AND LOOKS rehearsed on film....

And as anyone who makes severe trample vids by the end of an hour or so of full on action the trample victim is usually totally ruined, sore and tired and if the girls are as energetic and severe and physical as those here at Stryder's T Downunder they are totally and physically drained as well. Marina and Helen are active sport girls and they say a full real workout with me is the best leg and cardio workout they can have.

So yes I guess I do feel confident that what we are producing is a first class effort and is something not seen anywhere else in terms of what I do and how I do it. Dont know how long I can keep that up but I think I have a few years in me yet so I plan to keep providing and where I can improving. When I get a compliment from a friend like you it is wonderful when I get postive feedback from a stalwart like Rudy or KF I really feel like I have achieve something. When someone like Carlo invites me to travel to meet him and do some vids for him I know I must be doing something right even though it is not the same way he does it I think he appreciates the difference and knows that we are not competing because we are different. I know there will always be someone who will find fault or not like our material and that is life.

The not like part is easy to solve dont look at it:D the finding fault is sometimes good because you do miss and forget things or make mistakes at times and it is nice to have those suggestions or requests made. We will change where change is possible without sacrificing our integrity and our commitment to the larger number of friends that love what we do just the way we do it. But if a suggestion can help make what I honestly believe to be a some of the best material of its kind anywhere even better then I am all ears. Its true the vids do take on a little theme such as wonderwoman dream or jeanie etc and so that in itself is a little act but it is hard to act anything that is not the way you are feeling when you are being subjected to some (of what everyone would have to agree) of the harshest yet sexiest trample action around. If I am loving it despite being weird for loving such harsh treatment then please let me love it. If I am in pain and hurting I will say so and you will see and clearly hear that and it wont be acted (secretary trample and Dial T there are many moments like that). But it is hard to be in trample heaven (despite the obvious brutal action) and pretend it is hell....:confused:

TOAD
Hi welcome mate and thanks for the kind words. I have spoken to Lexi via email and she sound like a really nice person and certainly one I would like to meet as I am sure we would become friends....see I did not even mention about daydreaming of being under her beautiful feet (well except then LOL):D Please pass on our best wishes to her and tell her the invite to visit downunder as a guest is open.