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Stryder
05-15-2003, 8:34 PM
ANOTHER LARGE UPDATE
Especially for our loyal members another large update. New clips and many new pics (all high quality) in the members section. This should please everyone. There are new clips from the video we shot only last Saturday (how is that for service I have not even seen the finished vid yet and I am downloading the new clip from that vid myself because I am really keen to see it). We are aiming for at least 3 substantial updates a week and I think that is better than most sites.

From the last update only a day or two ago here is part of the most amazing clip you will see in a long while. I promised I would not show any here but I know some of you cant join through genuine lack of funds. I know that others that are too lazy or greedy to bother supporting this forum's contributors or any site even with a few words to say hello, thanks or some encouragement will get to see it too (I cant help that but I wont punish the genuine for the sake of making a point to the greedy)
See my point is 104 downloads of the clip and one response thanks fussskslave you da man with manners and it is for folks like you and others that we keep contributing.

Three angels stomping my face in heels whilst my head is supported on concrete only and outdoors with grit and dirt cutting the skin. Sorry about the quality but hey its for free and we do have the restrictions of 250kb here. For those deserving friends please enjoy and sorry it looks a bit yellow I had to sacrifice quality for content to fit within requirements.

Anyway let us know what you think of this clip once again sorry about the quality but you will all still get the idea.

(Edited to clear up a misconstruing of my ealier post by one of the community members cjx)

fusssklave50
05-15-2003, 8:41 PM
OMG - Please more! You da man! helen, you ROCK!

Stryder
05-15-2003, 11:55 PM
GLAD YOU LIKE IT
(From Helen)
Glad you seem to like the clip Steve put here from last weekend. I think I was stamping the hardest but I am not really that mean I just like showing off my blue sandals. Steve is meeting a new trample girl tomorrow we are told she is really pretty and really cant wait to trample Steve she actually rang us when she saw a poster of Steve at Sexpo and said she couldnt wait.

peterek2001
05-16-2003, 1:29 AM
Great clip :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

b-flat
05-16-2003, 2:30 AM
Thanx Stryder for sharing that awesome clip

b-flat

onekookydude
05-16-2003, 4:04 AM
Hello Stryder and Helen,
Thanks as always for sharing and for understanding the financial limitations of many of the grateful members here. You are both too cool.:cool:

cjx
05-16-2003, 4:26 AM
Originally posted by Stryder
I know the others that are too lazy or greedy to bother supporting the site will get to see it too

Well this comment sucks to be honest Stryder, I don't understand what you are trying to say here. People certainly do not have a duty to fork out $25 a month on your website purely because you have made one.

If it was $3-5 maybe you legitimately could ask people to "support" your site. But you are charging a lot of money.

I wish you and Helen luck but in reality your site is now in a marketplace along with many other good websites out there. I have never seen any of them call people lazy or greedy for not giving them their hard earned cash

Stryder
05-16-2003, 6:34 AM
GOT IT WRONG
Well cjx someone had to get it wrong I guess it was you. We dont care who does and does not join our site that is not the issue. No one expects anyone to part with hard earned cash if they dont want to. There are a lot out there who are greedy enough to expect others to spend their hard earned cash and time to post everything for them for free (probably some of the many who immediately tried to hack into the site when it did start). \

I was dead against having a pay site for well over ten years and probably have contributed more free material (not wanting anymore than to give a bit of pleasure and perhaps the occasional thanks) than anyone else....but it was costing us quite a bit in terms of time and money and when we saw some pay sites were actually using our free material on their sites it was just too much.

We dont really care whether people join or not. It would be nice if they did but its not as if it is going to be our living or a big money earner as it is not our intention to spread into splinter sites and chase every cent from different types of fetish. We will just do what we know and the majority of the money will be put back into the site to pay some of the girls, the cost of running the thing and providing good material and a chance for some members to win some very interesting prizes.

My main compliant has been what it has been for years that is the greedy folks who grab up everything and dont acknowledge the contributors (whoever they may be). I always said I would keep posting free material even if we started a site and I intend to keep doing so it would be nice if once and a while people would just say thanks. I am not talking about much and certainly not referring to those who regularly do so but when you see those that regularly support contributors here being the same ones that at least support our site and others in some way (even with words without joining) it still leaves a lot of others.

We did not just turn up with a site as an unknown and try to entice people into joining we have shared and contributed more than just pics and clips over the years. I appreciate peoples right to not make a comment when someone gives them something for nothing but I dont have to like it.

I notice you pick and chose what sites you will support and encourage with words and that is up to you if you dont like our material or the fact that we have a site now that is also up to you but when you sit there and try to make an issue where one does not exist that is just plain mean, petty and pedantic. Sorry you missed the whole point and if you dont like our material dont look at it and certainly dont pay for it.

If we knew for sure that everyone was as quick to find fault and misconstrue my point as you then I would not post at all for fear of offending but fortunately (or hopefully) not everyone does so we will keep posting away and hope that a few more have the decency to say thanks once in a while.

You can praise and carry on about the sites you like for as long as you like but if you want to criticise me for criticising the greedy folks who never give a farts worth of encouragement, thanks or support to anyone that has given them something for nothing go right ahead but perhaps do it on your own time because to my mine it is just plain good manners to give a few words here and there if you like what you are given.

I am sure you knew exactly what I was referring to when I said support and it was not a reference to telling people they should join even though your message is basically saying they should not because it is too expensive....I could appreciate that if you could give a valued decision on the content and what people get for their money at various sites and if you can run a site for 3-5 bucks then by all means do so.

Lazy and greedy was for those here who never contribute or give encouragement or thanks (and before you pick up on that I dont mean those who dont contribute pics or clips etc I mean contribute by involvement of some nature however slight).

There are a lot of good sites out there and a lot of shitty ones but only a few good sites that come here and still contribute and fewer still where the people who run it are known to us and respond to our requests, problems, conversations, ideas, hopes and likes or dislikes....a bit like I am doing now in response to your attack.

I would be foolish in the extreme to tell people they are lazy or greedy for not joining our site or anyone elses but I dont think I am foolish or out of line to say those that hang around this forum for what they can get or who they can upset or send virus emails or try to hack into sites or exchange passwords and nothing else, are lazy and greedy and unfair to others and that is not something I will apologise for and I think you will find I have support on this assertion.

For those however like our friend cjx out there who did think I was saying what cjx thinks I was saying I do sincerely apologise but hopefully they are in the minority because those who actually bother to follow what I have posted here over the years would know I have more integrity than cjx obvious thinks I have and I have nothing but friendship to offer those here who want it.

If I thought the site was too expensive or not as good as those good sites he refers to it just would not continue as I would close it immediately. If the site runs at a loss then so be it as long as the members are happy so am I.

I will put it simply for those who perhaps misunderstood like cjx....You dont like us, our material (free or otherwise) dont like the fact that we are giving it a go at doing a pay site and making some videos? Dont look at it, dont join, dont buy the vids, dont criticise and just dont bother...but dont download all our free material or try to hack into the site if you dont like it just leave us alone and we will all be happier. For our friends and supporters thanks and continue to enjoy as we enjoy contributing.

If you think this message sucks also mate (and you probably will find fault with it as well) then you are entitled to but I dont think I want a war of words with another one of the community here so unless you get personal I wont respond to further attacks.

Take care and thanks for at least pointing out something that I said that at least one person misunderstood perhaps I should edit the message you took offence to so it is very clear but then this response should have done that hopefully.:D

cjx
05-16-2003, 8:03 AM
Originally posted by Stryder
I dont think I want a war of words with another one of the community here so unless you get personal I wont respond to further attacks

Nothing personal. Thanks for your response, I understand your position more clearly now.

The only thing I will say is that I was responding to what I thought was an unprovoked attack by you on me and people like me. Otherwise I never would have replied in the manner that I did. I obviously misunderstood what you were trying to say, and for that I apologise.

There are obviously many people here who appreciate everything you post on the forum, I wouldn't worry too much if you get 1 reply from a 100 views. It seems the same on every forum on every subject around the world.

There are a great many more things I can say in response to your post, but I think it is better to leave it there.

I know it is very hard work making the website, and once again I wish you luck with it.

cjx

Stryder
05-16-2003, 1:54 PM
CJX
Thanks mate for reading my response and trying to understand my perspective. Sorry that what I wrote earlier was misunderstood I hate creating friction actually. On the personal level I have not been feeling too great lately physically and psychologically left Uni twice this week with massive stomach cramps and feeling very stressed and down for many reasons so I probably over reacted to what I also thought was an attack and did not properly look at why you might have reacted the way you did. My first post was late and I was beat so I probably was not as good with my words as I would like to think I usually am and for that I apologise too.

Glad you like our material and for those like yourself and other friends that have contacted me personall regarding the site and my health thanks. Helen and I are fully aware that we have a lot of friends and supporter out there who would love to become part of the little family at the site but for reasons personal not financial (that is they dont want their partner to find out they have joined a site etc) and it is for them as well that we continue to try and share our life here.

No offence taken and thank you for taking the time to make your point and enter into constructive and hopefully friendship building correspondence. I think I had a good nights sleep and if Helens parrot would stop screaming out "birds cant talk" I would be having a better morning as well.

Steve

thomaso275
05-16-2003, 2:36 PM
Stryder and Helen. I do not think some folks realize how much time and effort it takes to develop and update a site like yours. Particularly if you are directly involved in every aspect of the finished product. Your updates are timely and keep value in the monthly fee and the pay per views are reasonable. I have purchased many files so far. After many years of free postings, why shouldn't you receive compensation so that you and Helen can also benefit? I am a firm believer in paying for service or product. When the quallity or quality diminishes then it is up to the individual consumer to decide to take their business elsewhere. After all your free offerings, I joined your site as soon as it was available and am "coming" out way ahead at this stage.

I would like to make two suggestions for your videos...more verbalization - orders, comments, questions from the women trampling you during the movies - for example in a Secy. clip one of the girls says something like "okay I got him" while trapping your head between her shoes. Awesome. That sets the tone for what is to follow and adds to the excitement. Also, having ones face slapped with a beautiful bare or shoed foot is visually exciting, There is a subltle difference between the stomps you receive and a foot slap.

Anyhow, keep up the good work and thanks for both of your efforts.

steponmyface
05-16-2003, 6:30 PM
Thanks Stryder,

You and Helen continue to rule.

By the way, do you ever lick the shoe soles clean?

Keep up the great work!!

Step

hambonebean2003
05-16-2003, 6:51 PM
Thanks for the higher rez pix and the movie updates?

How about some movies and large pix of the "tongue trampling" and how about some straight-up ball kicking and perhaps some ball-crushing ala stardeck9?

Are DVDs available?

-Ham

fisch616
05-16-2003, 8:01 PM
What else can be said about the Master and Mistress of the Genre? Always excellent and never dissapointing. Hope You feel better soon Stryder

bcurt
05-16-2003, 9:01 PM
Stryder,
Sorry man, I almost busted a gut laughing about your comment on the bird ...."birds can't talk"....
I had a Cockatiel (spelling?) once. taught the little bastard to say a few inapropriate phrases...took forever. But once the little bastard caught on, I couldn't shut him up. Son of B.... would wake me up all the time saying stupid shit..

hope you're feeling well physically and mentaly soon.
Take care,

BC

satch
05-17-2003, 12:05 AM
Stryder, thanx for another brilliant clip. No wonder you're not feeling to well, lookin'at all the abuse you have taken ;) But seriously, keep up the good work. Thanx, mate!